Special Announcement: We have migrated to a new forum platform community.dsf.ninja. The old forum is locked, but it will remain open for reading. Read more.

Massive in Dubstep

hardware, software, tips and tricks
Forum rules
By using this "Production" sub-forum, you acknowledge that you have read, understood and agreed with our terms of use for this site. Click HERE to read them. If you do not agree to our terms of use, you must exit this site immediately. We do not accept any responsibility for the content, submissions, information or links contained herein. Users posting content here, do so completely at their own risk.

Quick Link to Feedback Forum

Postby Beare » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:35 pm

What is the point of even trying to make dubstep if you don't have Massive.

These days you will never ever get signed to any sort of major label, and probably no minor labels unless your using Massive for your baselines. And sure, you can make some okay shit with freeware, but your seriously wasting your time unless you want to shell out hundreds of dollars for Massive/Sylenth/Etc. It seems to me the only ways to get signed to a dubstep label is to either buy a shit ton of dubstep loops because you can't make them yourself, or spend all your time trying to make halfway decent bass with halfway decent synths and never get anywhere. Literally every single prominent dubstep producer uses Massive. I just watched 5 hours worth of interviews, and allll there people say they use Massive. IDK what the fuck they got started with, but Datsik sure as hell didn't get where he was with TAL Noisemaker and a bunch of BPB plugins. :u:

That's my take on this shit anyway, if you disagree then help me out by giving me one example of someone who got anywhere without shelling out serious money for plugins. It's more than frustrating to realize that no one can ever make it in music as a teen, unless your parents are rich or they really, really like you or you somehow have a crazy job at 16 and you can sped all your money on software.
Beare
 
Posts:
2
Joined:
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:26 pm

Postby skimpi » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:45 pm

can you get me massive?
TopManLurka wrote:thanks for confirming

OiOiii #BELTER
skimpi
 
Posts:
4241
Joined:
Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:25 am

Postby RKM » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:48 pm

this is mromgwtf aint it
ImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImage
User avatar
RKM
 
Posts:
4742
Joined:
Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:57 am

Postby Samuel_L_Damnson » Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:02 pm

:trolling:
User avatar
Samuel_L_Damnson
 
Posts:
3485
Joined:
Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:53 am
Location:
YORKSHIRE!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Beare » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:11 pm

@ Everyone
GG on wasting your own time. Of all the places to troll, the last place i would choose is a forum for something I actually care about.
Beare
 
Posts:
2
Joined:
Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:26 pm

Postby rorz9992 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:20 pm

I don't see the problem? Massive is widely used because it's a great vsti. You can make a good bass on any number of synths though if you know what you're doing.
User avatar
rorz9992
 
Posts:
1251
Joined:
Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:43 pm

Postby jrkhnds » Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:09 am

Skream and Benga.
AxeD wrote:I dunno, there's some thoroughly unemployed people on this forum.

https://soundcloud.com/bassmusikmix/jurkhands-trainwrecks-heartbreaks
User avatar
jrkhnds
 
Posts:
4180
Joined:
Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:35 am
Location:
Zurich / Basel

Postby ThisIsSovereign » Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:19 am

If your synth can generate a sine wave you can make good dubstep basses. :dunce:
User avatar
ThisIsSovereign
 
Posts:
345
Joined:
Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:59 pm
Location:
United States

Postby Kahnage » Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:28 am

I dont get it?

Are you complaining about how expensive Massive is?

Are you talking about all dubstep or just brostep?
User avatar
Kahnage
 
Posts:
140
Joined:
Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:07 am

Postby wub » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:10 am

Beare wrote:if you disagree then help me out by giving me one example of someone who got anywhere without shelling out serious money for plugins.


Burial.
wub
 
Posts:
34156
Joined:
Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:11 pm
Location:
Madrid

Postby stikman » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:10 pm

wub wrote:
Beare wrote:if you disagree then help me out by giving me one example of someone who got anywhere without shelling out serious money for plugins.


Burial.


Kode9
User avatar
stikman
 
Posts:
137
Joined:
Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:13 pm
Location:
Birmingham

Postby Harkat » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:53 pm

For real, in terms of techier producers though, DJ Madd uses moslty TAL Elek7ro for his synths/bass

same as me
RKM wrote:when bae hands u the aux mixtape and your squad blunted 9/11 aye lmao
User avatar
Harkat
 
Posts:
6375
Joined:
Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:05 am
Location:
GLASGOW

Postby Simulant » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:00 pm

To be honest, I think that Massive is hands down the best VST synth ever. The interface is awesome, the modulation capabilities are more than most people will ever use - you can modulate almost everything. It's very easy to learn and use, but even after years I'm still playing with it and creating new sounds.

Other synths are ok, but Massive is by far my favourite. It's designed for a computer, whereas some synths try to mimic hardware. I don't have about having a photo of a Moog on my VST synth, and I don't want to have to scan through pages of a mod matrix - Massive's drag and drop interface is ideal. And the macro's are a real time saver.

Plus, most importantly - it's fun to use. Jump in, add a waveform, throw an envelope and lfo on some stuff and you're away. I know a lot of people like synths like Zebra and Absynth, but I find these less welcoming to use as they're a bit more involved.

I'd like to see it updated though - it could do with some better filters and new waveforms imo.
Image
User avatar
Simulant
 
Posts:
256
Joined:
Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:36 pm

Postby CreamLord » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:09 am

Even if massive was the greatest synth ever to have existed (I'm not saying it is btw) , it's retarded to say that there's no point making dubstep if you don't use massive
Image
m8son wrote:yh a bit of extra knob fiddling is ok
Anal A$ap....Keep living dat #PLUR life....To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea.... Swag
Instagram Soundcloud
User avatar
CreamLord
 
Posts:
3943
Joined:
Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:55 pm
Location:
Marshy farmland

Postby Sexual_Chocolate » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:17 am

The jungle is Massive
Laszlo wrote:and yay, upon imparting his knowledge to his fellow Ninjas, Nevalo spoke wisely that when aggrieved by a woman thou shalt put it in her bum.
https://soundcloud.com/labelarecs/lbla001-johney0h85
https://labelarecs.bandcamp.com
User avatar
Sexual_Chocolate
 
Posts:
17019
Joined:
Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:57 pm
Location:
Label A City

Postby Taiken » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:29 am

If you know what you are doing, you can produce good music with an empty beer can, but if you got no idea, you can spend tons of money on fancy stuff and it will always sound like bull
TENGU SOUNDSYSTEM // TENGU COLLECTIVE

Links
http://soundcloud.com/djtaiken
http://tengucollective.ch/
User avatar
Taiken
 
Posts:
338
Joined:
Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:42 pm
Location:
Switzerland / St. Gallen / Basel

Postby Seeerious » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:24 am

Pay for massive.....
Yeah, Good joke that is.
User avatar
Seeerious
 
Posts:
66
Joined:
Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:38 pm

Postby rorz9992 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:47 pm

Simulant wrote:To be honest, I think that Massive is hands down the best VST synth ever. The interface is awesome, the modulation capabilities are more than most people will ever use - you can modulate almost everything. It's very easy to learn and use, but even after years I'm still playing with it and creating new sounds.

Other synths are ok, but Massive is by far my favourite. It's designed for a computer, whereas some synths try to mimic hardware. I don't have about having a photo of a Moog on my VST synth, and I don't want to have to scan through pages of a mod matrix - Massive's drag and drop interface is ideal. And the macro's are a real time saver.

Plus, most importantly - it's fun to use. Jump in, add a waveform, throw an envelope and lfo on some stuff and you're away. I know a lot of people like synths like Zebra and Absynth, but I find these less welcoming to use as they're a bit more involved.

I'd like to see it updated though - it could do with some better filters and new waveforms imo.


It's between Massive and Synth1 for my fave VSTi. Though I think if I could get my head round FM8 a bit more, then that would be up there too.
User avatar
rorz9992
 
Posts:
1251
Joined:
Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:43 pm

Postby CreamLord » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:51 pm

3xosc though
Image
m8son wrote:yh a bit of extra knob fiddling is ok
Anal A$ap....Keep living dat #PLUR life....To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea.... Swag
Instagram Soundcloud
User avatar
CreamLord
 
Posts:
3943
Joined:
Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:55 pm
Location:
Marshy farmland

Postby ThatWorxGuy » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:59 am

I've used Massive, and I've used many other software synthesizers and Vst's as well ( including Sylenth1, FM8, Nexus, etc. ) and I have to say, although getting the desired sick nasty bass sound you want is easier ( in most cases ) with Massive, it isn't BY ANY MEANS impossible to get the same sounds with other synths. It's just ignorant to say that you " can't " make Dubstep or can't get anywhere in the music industry without having Massive in your plugin arsenal.
ThatWorxGuy
 
Posts:
2
Joined:
Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:54 am

This forum is locked. Continue the discussion by creating a new topic on The New Dubstep Forum.
Next

Return to Production, Hardware & Technical