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Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by Bass_Jacka » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:59 am

I've searched the forum but can't find any threads relating to this, please point me in the right direction if there is another thread for this.

What is the best way to go about extracting an acapella from a track?

I understand the technique of playing the original with the instrumental and reversing the polarity of the instrumental to cancel out all frequencies except the vocal. But what if you don't have the instrumental?

Is there any software that can extract a vocal? Any other techniques to consider?


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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by AxeD » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:18 am

It's kind of like extracting salt from your dinner.
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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by RADD » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:00 pm

How about you remove the vocals first to create your own instrumental version?

I think I tried it once this way but I dont remember if it worked.

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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by wub » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:02 pm

Bass_Jacka wrote:What is the best way to go about extracting an acapella from a track?
Short answer, there isn't one.
Bass_Jacka wrote:I understand the technique of playing the original with the instrumental and reversing the polarity of the instrumental to cancel out all frequencies except the vocal. But what if you don't have the instrumental?
Only works if you have the instrumental, and I've yet to hear what I'd consider a 'good' acapella obtained using this technique.
Bass_Jacka wrote:Is there any software that can extract a vocal? Any other techniques to consider?
Melodyne in theory should be able to isolate the vocal element of a tune and extract it that way

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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by Bass_Jacka » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:57 pm

Thanks for the replies!
AxeD wrote:It's kind of like extracting salt from your dinner.


Good analogy lol, kinda puts it into perspective!
wub wrote:Melodyne in theory should be able to isolate the vocal element of a tune and extract it that way
I've never really used Melodyne - I know it's pretty decent and versatile, but seems too complicated to me.


In that case, does anyone have an acapella for Ella Henderson - Glow? :D
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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by wub » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:37 pm

Bass_Jacka wrote:
wub wrote:Melodyne in theory should be able to isolate the vocal element of a tune and extract it that way
I've never really used Melodyne - I know it's pretty decent and versatile, but seems too complicated to me.




These videos go through it pretty well.

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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by ftwgmorm » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:38 pm

AxeD wrote:It's kind of like extracting salt from your dinner.
Or like having a + b = c, and trying to guess "b" while only having "c".

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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by legend4ry » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:20 am

I always ask myself the perfectly simple question what a lot of people seem to forget to ask themselves when making music.


Does the track really need it? I feel vocals are not used correctly in 90% of bass music, if you're just going to slap a 'pella over a beat, why don't you just re sing/rap it yourself?
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Post by NinjaEdit » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:13 am

Virtual DJ can extract vocals.

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Post by Samuel_L_Damnson » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:03 am

Use win rar to extract the accapella from the archive
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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by topmo3 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:13 pm

even the best DIY acapellas suck

there's really no way of making an acapella version
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Post by soronery » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:57 pm

NinjaEdit wrote:Virtual DJ can extract vocals.
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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by outbound » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:30 pm

Technology is getting scarily better, things like melodyne DNA etc are pushing things so far that hopefully soon we won't have this problem but for the time being these are never going to sound that great unless you have access to the original project files.
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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by NinjaEdit » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:22 pm

I tried extracting the vocals from Burial - Archangel and nothing really worked including Melodyne. Like Ledge said, the best approach is probably to sing it yourself and fix with Melodyne and in that case you might as well write your own line.

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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by Trichome » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:47 pm

lol why didn't you just get the vocals from the original Ray J tune and process them the same way he did?
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Post by NinjaEdit » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:04 pm

It was just an exercise.

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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by Trichome » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:30 pm

Fair enough, was just wondering haha.
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Re: Acapella extraction techniques needed

Post by Mad_EP » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:29 am

There are two choices -

spend a long time trying to extract with mainly poor results...

or, find the acapella.


If you can't find the acapella - you have to ask yourself, do you REALLY need it?
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Post by Dystinkt » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:38 am

Mad_EP wrote:There are two choices -

spend a long time trying to extract with mainly poor results...

or, find the acapella.


If you can't find the acapella - you have to ask yourself, do you REALLY need it?
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phase cancellation is overrated massively

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