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Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:18 pm
by Elkie
Anyone had much success with this sort of sound?

I'm not really sure how to approach it - is it mostly sample based or do you think these guys are just MIDI wizards?

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:21 pm
by soronery
can you post some tunes for example of what you mean

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:40 pm
by apostlebass
I said this in another thread that had a similar question, so I will quote the response I put in that thread on here. I make this sound, so there are many different ways of doing it, I listed several different methods in this response. I myself use a little bit of both methods, it depends on the track.
apostlebass wrote:Alright, well considering I make that jazzy vibe, and I talk to Trashbat, B9, Jafu, Freud, etc. on a regular basis I can give you the rundown on how we make this sound. There are 2 main methods that we use to get this sound.

For artists like Geode, and Cal (Trashbat), they use several different piano sounds to accomplish this sound. A VST I have found that recreates this is Lounge Lizard, but really any VST with Electronic Pianos will work (Logic has some good e-piano presets). Geode tends to make more of a Jazzy, Deep House style. So stabs and short melodies are the way to go.

For artists like myself, B9, and Freud, we use sampling to accomplish this sound. Our sound is a bit more jazzy, and less garagey. Sampling jazz piano riffs, or any real piano riff in general will accomplish this sound.

Simplicity is key to our scene. If you listen to Geode - Embrace, you can hear that the melody is carried throughout the track, but drum variation, vocal one shots, automations in tremelo add variation. When I first started this sound I had no idea where to start. I eventually found my own style and stick with it; but, I hope this helped a little bit. If you need anymore help, or feedback I would be happy to help you out. Just sort me a soundcloud message or a pm on here :)

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:11 am
by test_recordings
Is this Trashbat? It's fucking beautiful, must use a lot of recorded instruments, especially the guitar

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:40 am
by ChadDub
idk how Silkie produces but I know his music is good

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:43 am
by cyclopian
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=307061

Check out the sound design forum overall.

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:43 pm
by legend4ry
From your reference artists, i've been making this sound since around.. 08? I would just say the obvious what no one has mentioned...

Learn how to play piano.



This guy it great.

Get some good quality VSTs & kontakt libraries, learn about articulations. Try and get authenticity using midi. The rest just comes from your own creativity.

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Or you could just sample everything like most people do.

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:09 pm
by apostlebass
legend4ry wrote: Or you could just sample everything like most people do.
Nothing wrong with sampling ;)

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:00 pm
by ChadDub
I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:49 pm
by apostlebass
ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em
I hope this is a joke

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:53 pm
by ChadDub
apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em
I hope this is a joke
How is it a joke?

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:04 am
by apostlebass
ChadDub wrote:
apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em
I hope this is a joke
How is it a joke?
There's no creativity in taking a song and adding an 808 under it. There is so much more to sampling than that. That's stealing, not sampling.

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:15 am
by ChadDub
apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:
apostlebass wrote:
ChadDub wrote:I'll sample entire songs and just add 808 to em
I hope this is a joke
How is it a joke?
There's no creativity in taking a song and adding an 808 under it. There is so much more to sampling than that. That's stealing, not sampling.

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:37 am
by apostlebass
ChadDub wrote:
Not sure why you would link me to that video. Considering it's Flosstradamus, but if you insist...

http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/09/dutch ... -sampling/

Sampling is the art of taking a PORTION of a piece of music and turning it into something completely different. Taking a whole song, and slapping an 808 under it is not innovative, it takes no artistic ability, or creativity to do. That's stealing.

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:49 am
by ChadDub
REMIX,..... REMIX,.......REMIX,......

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:45 am
by legend4ry
apostlebass wrote:
legend4ry wrote: Or you could just sample everything like most people do.
Nothing wrong with sampling ;)
Nah, course not.

Just its different when as an artist you're not open about it.

Ive seen certain people not say they use samples and imply that they played it. :a:

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:38 pm
by apostlebass
legend4ry wrote:
apostlebass wrote:
legend4ry wrote: Or you could just sample everything like most people do.
Nothing wrong with sampling ;)
Nah, course not.

Just its different when as an artist you're not open about it.

Ive seen certain people not say they use samples and imply that they played it. :a:
Of course :i:

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:49 pm
by lentilka
I ain't got nothing against sampling as long as people are not lazy but creative, that means I want to hear sample flipped properly and not just untouched loops with beat over it for the rest of the song. :a:

Of course there can be exceptions as with everything.

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:23 am
by test_recordings
Jazz production aesthetics are very 'clean' so it should be easy to sample

Re: Jazzy Dubstep (Chord Marauders, Geode, Jafu et al)

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:57 pm
by syrup
I missed Chaddub