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An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:03 pm

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A bit of a theoretical question for you--if a musician were to set up a project in which they were going to document the process of creating an album from start to release and make it all available on a website, free to access, what all would you want?

Video? Sound clips? Lyric drafts? What kind of freebies would interest you along the way? How interactive would you want it to be? If you wanted it to be interactive at all, what would you want? What kind of live streams might interest you? How biographical would you want it to be? What about the person and their life while they are creating would interest you?

I'm also open to why you think this is a terrible idea in part or whole.

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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by hubb » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:11 pm

Mystique and secresy is pretty central to the best music in our throat of the forrest.

I'd rather prefer to convince myself that the person I listen to was a weird hermit wizard than a kinder garden teacher... but thats probably just me trying to say it in an 'necessarily' harsh way :6:
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:41 pm

hubb wrote:Mystique and secresy is pretty central to the best music in our throat of the forrest.

I'd rather prefer to convince myself that the person I listen to was a weird hermit wizard than a kinder garden teacher... but thats probably just me trying to say it in an 'necessarily' harsh way :6:
Would you find it interesting to know how being a kindergarten teacher influenced their process? And I mean not in a mundane way like scheduling.
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Post by fragments » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:43 pm

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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:46 pm

I think you're asking the quire. The only thing I want to see is MY record being produced, haha. I know what goes into it. A tun of boring shit.

Maybe regular people would like to know. But there aren't many regular people around here.
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by hubb » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:21 pm

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hubb wrote:Mystique and secresy is pretty central to the best music in our throat of the forrest.

I'd rather prefer to convince myself that the person I listen to was a weird hermit wizard than a kinder garden teacher... but thats probably just me trying to say it in an 'necessarily' harsh way :6:
Would you find it interesting to know how being a kindergarten teacher influenced their process? And I mean not in a mundane way like scheduling.
Only if the kids where used as batteries in one of the machines.

Don't get me wrong kids are the best, they can talk about stuff like this...
aaand they can actually share what it means to them.
We end up giving out technical advice (by we I mean me :6: )..
I guess part of it is me wanting musicians to be more straight up alchymists or weird experimentarists than people that actually know what they are doing.
Maybe even to the point where, when we know what we are doing it's a sign that its time to change direction!
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:58 pm

nowaysj wrote:I think you're asking the quire. The only thing I want to see is MY record being produced, haha. I know what goes into it. A tun of boring shit.

Maybe regular people would like to know. But there aren't many regular people around here.
Duly noted!

Personally, I find the idea of studio session live streams or recordings completely and utterly boring. People seem to be into them though.

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Only if the kids where used as batteries in one of the machines.

Don't get me wrong kids are the best, they can talk about stuff like this...
aaand they can actually share what it means to them.
We end up giving out technical advice (by we I mean me :6: )..
I guess part of it is me wanting musicians to be more straight up alchymists or weird experimentarists than people that actually know what they are doing.
Maybe even to the point where, when we know what we are doing it's a sign that its time to change direction!
:Q: Interesting thoughts here as well.


Overall, I'm thinking more in terms of what fans might find interesting, not other producers. I know there is a huge crossover there in the dance music world. But this theoretical project wouldn't be dance music and I wouldn't be aiming directly at other musicians or producers as a target audience.

I'd prefer to keep everything light, whacky and fun.

Because I completely agree with both of you...I seriously can't imagine wanting to watch someone talk about why they turned a knob 3 units one way or the other...

I'd would prefer a balance between being interesting to people who would be purely "fans" and still be be about "process" on some level, but just enough to be interesting in that way to any creative type.
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:03 pm

I think you're ratio of shooting to usable material would be 100:1. The studio is a dreary place. With a lot of clicking and staring.

There are moments, though. When things click, the fire ignites. Capturing those moments would be dope. Then documenting how that fire is suffocated by formatting it into discreet distributable/consumable song chunks would be interesting... (but we're not talking about my studio... :6: )
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by hubb » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:08 pm

Im thinking 'gameshow' now.

Making a song from fan inputs or whatever..

could be new or nu :W:
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Post by Sharmaji » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:12 pm

check Imogen Heap's video blogs, 2010.
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by legend4ry » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:05 pm

I started doing this for my album what just came out..

Made 3 of the tracks live on stream, sadly life took over for a bit and couldn't stream actively as weird working hours.

Defs will be documenting projects coming up though.
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:37 pm

nowaysj wrote:I think you're ratio of shooting to usable material would be 100:1. The studio is a dreary place. With a lot of clicking and staring.

There are moments, though. When things click, the fire ignites. Capturing those moments would be dope. Then documenting how that fire is suffocated by formatting it into discreet distributable/consumable song chunks would be interesting... (but we're not talking about my studio... :6: )
Yea. I might as well just drop the other shoe and say that this *is* happening--I've been telling myself for a decade (yea, really) that I was going to do a spoken word and synthesizers/drum machines/field recordings project.

So there is a vocal/lyrics/writing aspect to this as well. And...I'm not sure what else. Thing is I'm not even sure who the hell my audience is, I'm curious what percentage of dance music enthusiasts or even non-dance but electronic enthusiasts would really be interested in this.

I'll be filming a lot and editing down to the sweet stuff. That Stone's video was actually a really nice example. So thanks for that again.

@hubb: I was actually thinking interactive in some sense might be cool. But working with fan input seems like it could get out of hand fast ;p

@Sharm: will do, thank you!

@Legend4ry: yea, I watched a one or two of your screen cap sessions a while back. I will admit I skipped around a bit, but surely some interesting parts in all the "episodes" I watched : )
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:11 am

I'd like to film myself in the studio. Like me listening to a 4 bar loop for three hours. Would be enthralling. That would be some Godard level shit, like actually next level sad.
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Post by fragments » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:45 am

nowaysj wrote:I'd like to film myself in the studio. Like me listening to a 4 bar loop for three hours. Would be enthralling. That would be some Godard level shit, like actually next level sad.
I'm kind of automatically assuming I'd edit that shite out :lol: just a enough to keep the audience on the edge of their seat then straight to the golden moment...
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Post by cyclopian » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:12 am

nowaysj wrote:I'd like to film myself in the studio. Like me listening to a 4 bar loop for three hours. Would be enthralling. That would be some Godard level shit, like actually next level sad.
I'm picturing hours of watching you untangle trs cables
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by hubb » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:37 pm

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Post by nowaysj » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:08 pm

cyclopian wrote:
nowaysj wrote:I'd like to film myself in the studio. Like me listening to a 4 bar loop for three hours. Would be enthralling. That would be some Godard level shit, like actually next level sad.
I'm picturing hours of watching you untangle trs cables
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If anybody can find my monitor cables, that would be great, also. We could shoot an episode on that alone. Interspersed with me having gastrointestinal issues.
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Re: An artist documenting album creation start to finish?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:26 pm

Cables found.

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Post by fragments » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:45 pm

nowaysj wrote:Interspersed with me having gastrointestinal issues.
In this episode nowaysj learns us how to resample farts. :corndance:
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