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Post by joseph-j » Fri May 19, 2006 9:01 am

docdoom wrote:quannum pka solesides crew, originally blackalicious (gift of gab and chief xl) and latyrx (lyrics born (pka asia born) and and lateef the truth speaker) and dj shadow. Later extended fam include lifesavas, joyo velade and some others i cant remember!
Best gig I ever saw was Solesides at the Kings X Scala. Lyrics Born, Lateef, Gab, XL and Shadow all on stage at the same time.

It was like finding a suitcase full of money, then finding out the suitcase is made of marzipan.

The best thing in the world ever.

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Post by eskay » Fri May 19, 2006 8:18 pm

Did anyone recognise the sample at the beginning of Skream's Traitor?

Original UK Hiphop form Hardnoise - two mental tunes.

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Post by human? » Fri May 19, 2006 8:50 pm

gift of gab is one of the best emcees ever.... mad slept on...



imo, theres ALOT of hiphop that verges on dubstep, maybe not so bass heavy but.....

check some leftfield stuff like Orko Eloheem & Big Jus' N.M.S. (Nephelim Modulation Systems) on Big dada.... that "Last days" tracks on they most recent album is mad fun to mix with the dubstep.... Orko actually does alot of crazy things with beats on all his albums, including mad Jungle experimentation....


i dunno, all one music to me...

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Post by shonky » Fri May 19, 2006 9:15 pm

Don't know quite how I forgot but Witness by Roots Manuva's got the wobble bass and dubstyle effects.
Hmm....

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Post by 8bitwonder » Fri May 19, 2006 9:22 pm

Shonky wrote:Don't know quite how I forgot but Witness by Roots Manuva's got the wobble bass and dubstyle effects.
saw him in leeds live and that tune is fookin mental-theres a propa dub version on zero 7's another late nite thats wicked too 8)

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Post by shonky » Fri May 19, 2006 10:02 pm

Think there was a dub remix album - "Dub Come Save Me" - think it's on that.

Whole dub remix album - geezer!!

Also "Riddim Killa" by Rodney P's wicked too.
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Post by 8bitwonder » Fri May 19, 2006 10:04 pm

oh man yeah riddem killa is fukin sick!

its all about the flute in that :D

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Post by Jubz » Sat May 20, 2006 3:00 am

Rodney P and Skitz are dons! reggae stylings arun!

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Post by dxu » Mon May 22, 2006 9:03 am

i found 'horsepower productions - to the rescue' sounded heavily hiphop influenced.

ive been producing hiphop for the past 5 years. just making beats for friends and if they don't use them then i usually beef them up into an instrumental track with more changes in direction than say a straight beat. i got tired of programming the standard types of hiphop beat ages ago and moved onto more broken beats at the slower tempo. i love dubstep for the variety of beats mainly. i've started to move into producing more dubstep style stuff but im still getting to grips with programming interesting heavy sub-bass. it's all fucking good.

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Post by unreality » Mon May 22, 2006 6:21 pm

thats the worst mistake you can do

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Post by dxu » Tue May 23, 2006 3:34 am

unreality wrote:thats the worst mistake you can do
how so?

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Post by unreality » Tue May 23, 2006 11:43 am

DXU wrote:
unreality wrote:thats the worst mistake you can do
how so?
well the whole hiphop thing doenst fit into dubstep imo... it destroys the sound, if those hiphop apes start singing in such a great song..


i dont like(read: hate) hiphop, so this is ony my oppinion :oops:

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Post by fugetive » Tue May 23, 2006 1:29 pm

how do you get those big booming echo bass without loosing the punch when applying reverb....
hip hop producer, shit guna blow up in 2006

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Post by joseph-j » Tue May 23, 2006 2:12 pm

unreality wrote:
DXU wrote:
unreality wrote:thats the worst mistake you can do
how so?
well the whole hiphop thing doenst fit into dubstep imo... it destroys the sound, if those hiphop apes start singing in such a great song..


i dont like(read: hate) hiphop, so this is ony my oppinion :oops:
Thats the most illogical, unfounded thing I've ever read on this board. Well. SInce Dubmugga got kicked off anyway.

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Post by doomstep » Tue May 23, 2006 2:33 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

hip hop apes . . . thats classic, and borderline offensive.

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Post by shonky » Tue May 23, 2006 4:24 pm

unreality wrote:
DXU wrote:
unreality wrote:thats the worst mistake you can do
how so?
well the whole hiphop thing doenst fit into dubstep imo... it destroys the sound, if those hiphop apes start singing in such a great song..


i dont like(read: hate) hiphop, so this is ony my oppinion :oops:
Love it or hate it, can't imagine dubstep would exist without it (not a direct descendant I know, but history of sampling/dj's/dance music would be a bit lacking without it). Horsepower did a remix of "Stick and Move" around 2001 I think, with the dub on one side and the vocal on the other and that came off pretty well, both sides are players.

While I'm not mad on current hip hop, has to be said that some rappers would sound amazing on dubstep records, depends on the style of the rapper and the track. I think someone like Saul Williams would sound incredible on a dubstep tune, Dead Prez did "Hip hop" with that low churning bassline and it's not that far off to my mind. If it's not just some acapella laid over the top, and it's done well, then anything goes.
Hmm....

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Post by j_j » Tue May 23, 2006 4:53 pm

hip hop has nothing to do with dubstep whatsoever ........

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Post by ozols man » Tue May 23, 2006 5:09 pm

J_J wrote:hip hop has nothing to do with dubstep whatsoever ........
but they are both influenced by reggae.. so in the grand scheme of things there not too far apart

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Post by Jubz » Tue May 23, 2006 7:20 pm

J_J wrote:hip hop has nothing to do with dubstep whatsoever ........
Nor does rock music.

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Post by marsyas » Tue May 23, 2006 11:11 pm

bla bla...hip hop has to do with everything...some fookin blind people on this board.

i would take offense to apes too.

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