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dont lie. do you really never use presets?

Post by misk » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:00 am

a confession thread. i use them occasionally, but i always re sample the synthlines when i do... your turn 8)



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Post by djake » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:06 am

i never use presets in synths :!:

but on fx's then ocationally

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Post by future one » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:10 am

I have no problem at all about using presets.

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Post by lilt » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:13 am

i always start with presets

when i have an idea i will quickly find a preset that will do the job
then i will go back and tweak the preset/layer in more synths/add fx etc. etc.

i never end up with a preset... but always start with them

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Post by lilt » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:15 am

oh and i will also reuse parts of my own tracks if i feel like i have some ideas for it but it wont fit the current project

i copy and paste a particular channel into a new project then will tweak it to the new i dea i have in my head then build a track around it

it never sounds like the original channel that i copied and pasted... but that will be its origin

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Post by misk » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:22 am

lilt wrote:oh and i will also reuse parts of my own tracks if i feel like i have some ideas for it but it wont fit the current project

i copy and paste a particular channel into a new project then will tweak it to the new i dea i have in my head then build a track around it

it never sounds like the original channel that i copied and pasted... but that will be its origin
me too. thats one thing i love about finishing a tune - being able to cannibalize it and come back for more!

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Post by Sharmaji » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:25 am

start and tweak, start and tweak...
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Post by auan » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:42 am

I have no issue with using presets. I rarely do because playing about with synths is most of the fun of writing tunes for me. That's what they're for, innit? But it does happen. Especially on pads, and the more subtle aspects of a tune.

I used to love folk on dnb forums who would go "naaah, using presets makes you a bad producer" in one thread and then go "hey does anyone know what break Optical used in..." in another. Same shit, innit.
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Post by two oh one » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:12 am

If I can't find close to what I want in a preset, I will then synthesise something from scratch if I have the time.

But, I have absolutely no qualms about presets, because it saves time that is better spent on composition. I usually always tweak them just to make them fit in, but if it magically works and sounds good, who cares?

I don't like Arps in presets, though, because I feel that they're a sequence that wasn't written by me. Even though they're not. But they are.

I used to be obsessed and make absolutely everything from scratch, including synthesising drums, for geeking value. Soon, you realise that nobody fucking cares and the only people who can spot a preset are your peers. And peers can fuck off. Mostly nobody notices and if they do, they're concentrating on the wrong things about music, IMHO.

The only place I draw the line is that I don't like using samples or loops from other people. That feels like cheating, even after tweaking. I still feel sick listening to Choke, because I put a 'Jah' sample in it from somewhere or other.

And embarrassed I should be.

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Moby used plenty of presets, and like him or not, he could knock out a memorable tune. So can Numan, another preset user. Maybe they're concentrating on the bigger picture, eh?
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Post by lilt » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:12 am

Auan wrote:I have no issue with using presets. I rarely do because playing about with synths is most of the fun of writing tunes for me.

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Post by misk » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:19 am

agreed 201, i'll never use someone else's samples or loops - they're not mine. i didnt make them. I feel the same way about arps too. they're fun, but just fun to play on the keyboard, not include in my tracks. I like making things from scratch, but there are times when i hear a lead that is close to what i want - then i just mess with it until i get what i want. I do like having my own sample library though. I've been so unmotivated since i got my imac (go FUCKING figure, huh?) to make music that i think im gonna spend time building up a good sample library...



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Post by thesynthesist » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:38 am

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Post by claw » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:41 am

presets...yes
samples...tons of em
sample packs....yup

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Post by r » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:37 am

claw wrote:presets...yes
samples...tons of em
sample packs....yup

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Post by whineo » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:51 pm

I deconstruct them

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Post by Littlefoot » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:55 pm

Future One wrote:I have no problem at all about using presets.
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Post by crash fistfight » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:25 pm

Whineo wrote:I deconstruct them
I agree with this. Theres a few sounds on my ms2000 where I wondered "how did they f*cking do that?!?!?". I think it helps understand the instrument a little more and can help you get some wicked sounds, new synthesis techniques etc...
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Post by FSTZ » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:01 pm

only when I remix MISK tunes :O

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Post by misk » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:21 pm

unklefesta wrote:only when I remix MISK tunes :O
lol.


in all seriousness - i'll hit you up.

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Post by spencertron » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:48 pm

Now and again i do, there's always some sort of tweaking though i'm sure.

OT: I've upload a snapshot bank of 18 bass types created by me for Carbon One (Wobble/Reese/Sub) various Noisia style reeses and variations of yer dubstep wobble. for any reaktor users, in the User Library

http://www.native-instruments.com:80/in ... tchid=6859
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