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Postby DZA » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:39 pm

just woundering if anyone knows how to reduce the backing beat on tracks so the vocals are louder
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Postby hugh » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:59 pm

eqing?
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Postby futures_untold » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:28 pm

You could try using Waves Z-Noise or Clone Ensemble Steroid Bouncer to remove/seperate the vocals from the backing track. Another program to look at using is Elevayta Extra Boy http://www.elevayta.net/product13.htm.

Failing this, grab yourself a wave editor and get funky using phase cancellation to remove the vocal from the backing track. More can be found on google.
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Postby emu » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:32 pm

make space in your other sounds/instruments by eq'ing down around the 1k-2k hz range. this is where most of the vocal frequency presence is. this should make a little nest of frequency range for your vocals to snuggle up in. its all about making happy little nests.

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Postby hd4000 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:36 pm

EMU wrote:make space in your other sounds/instruments by eq'ing down around the 1k-2k hz range. this is where most of the vocal frequency presence is. this should make a little nest of frequency range for your vocals to snuggle up in. its all about making happy little nests.

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Postby kastor » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:12 am

TimG wrote:Tim G's Pella making tutorial

1. Get ur mp3 (make sure its atleast 192kps , preferably 256 or more) or WAV (much better obviously)

2. Load it into soundforge and do a 'PAN/EXPAND' process with the settings set to 'mid side' ..
This gives you a WAV with the Left-right material and centre mono material separated..

3. Grab the Centre mono material (which will hopefully have significantly more vocal than instruments/music.. save it as a mono WAV and load into Cool Edit

4. In Cool Edit select a section of instrumental with no vox (bit you want to reduce/remove from the vocal) and get a noise reduction profile (at 24000 FFT size + about 300 snapshots in the profile).. **actually since posting this on GYBO i've found that smaller FFT sizes with a larger no of snapshots can be more effective**

5. then select the whole WAV.. preview the noise reduction.. listen to what it does..

6. In the eq graph line bit.. increase the noise red below 200 hz and less between 300-10000hz .. giving a bit more clarity to the main vocal 'region'

7. Then maybe try some midband compression (300-8000hz) with a very fast attack (with readahead set to about 12ms) and 100ms release.. (i'll have to post a pic of the comp curve to show you how to get good results) to help gate some of the background music left over.

8. Then go to www.soundhack.com and download the amazing, yet seemingly unheard of,.. spectral plugins (VST) (theres a free trial)

9. go into cubase (or wot ever prog u use) import the 'pella' you've made and use the spectral gate to reduce non fundamental harmonics (see soundhack pdf for more info)...

The trick is to do this 'in the mix' for best results... Using a fast attack and slow release with the spectral gate helps remove transients like snares and cymbals..
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Postby dj fidelity » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:40 am

Some of the Pro's might Find this abit Crude, But I have got Exellent Results int the Past...

Using Cool edit Pro 2, Insert your Audio, Select unwanted Frequencies, goto Effects noise Reduction, Sample Selection, Close.

Select all, Go back to Noise Reduction, and apply the Previous freq. reduction to desired amount...
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Postby theonelikepaul » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:58 am

If you can find an instrumental of the tune, swap the phase then paste it on top of the full version.

The out of phase copy will eliminate all the instrumentation, and you should be left with just the vocal.
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