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Postby gekko » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:01 am

makign tunes sober is all well and good, but sometimes a zoot helps me come out with wierd shit.

normally dedicate zuton to when im graffin or scribblin though.
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Postby __________ » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:15 pm

i find its good for the boring things...editing samples, setting loop points, rendering mixes, building kits etc.

but when it comes to mixing a tune, it CAN be more of a hindrance.

on some tunes, the 'baked' mix sounds better than the sober one though. not everything has to be mixed down to perfection!
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Postby jackieboi » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:20 am

deffo. i cant sit and concentrate on a tune unless i'm chonged - a few jays helps things flow more fluently and makes the tedious editing tasks seem a bit more fun.

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Postby serox » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:30 am

eshscramble wrote:i didn't want to read this.

i had the same problem when i was a graphic designer... now i work with people all day and i love making tunes. i agree it's hard to concentrate and enjoy your comp when you spent all day hating it and wanting to get away. i'm currently in the market for another graphic design job.

good points raised, but now i think i'm in a dilemma :?


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Postby serox » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:32 am

Junglist wrote:
Ketamine is another drug that has great musical qualities, it's a natural low pass filter and compressor all in one with a relatively small dose.


Last time I tried to make beats on K I was making Techno and got down a 1 bar kick loop when I decided to do a line. I rem coming out of a hole about 40mins later still listening to the same kick on loop quite loud. Never again. Will leave that one for the clubs;)
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Postby serox » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:33 am

abZ wrote:You guys could always get a job in construction like me. I check my email on the phone, that is about all the computer time a get at work. When I come home I am pretty pumped up to sit at my desk and make some tunes.


I studied enough to get where I am in this shithole of a job. I am looking at my options cos I cannot continue like this, its not fun.
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Postby POND LIFE » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:14 pm

if i try to make a tune while stoned ill just end up doing something inane for 2 hours, like programming a synth to make a stupid noise.

i do however make my best mix sets during rave comedowns though!
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Postby cixxxj » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:48 am

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when you're on weed you understand why is dope
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Postby subindex » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:56 am

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Postby tempest » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:13 am

cixxxj wrote:when you're lucid you understand what is dope
when you're on weed you understand why is dope


Yeah man I reckon this is pretty spot on in a weird way
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Postby black lotus » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:37 am

tempest wrote:
cixxxj wrote:when you're lucid you understand what is dope
when you're on weed you understand why is dope


Yeah man I reckon this is pretty spot on in a weird way


i actually agree here too. when you're sober, it's more analytical. when you're floating ass wasted stoned, it's more intuitive.
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Postby serox » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:06 am

you will be happy to know I have not had a spliff while sitting at the computer since I started this thread. I have also made some of my best grooves to date.

I have been smoking about 10 cigarettes every 3 hours at the computer though. :oops:
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Postby DZA » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:09 am

i smoke a stupid amount off cigarettes when making a beat aswell :oops:
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Postby serox » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:14 am

The_Dza88 wrote:i smoke a stupid amount off cigarettes when making a beat aswell :oops:


I was on it for 4 hours last night (in the zone ha) today I feel like I am about 50 yrs old.

Yuck. :evil:
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Postby d-T-r » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:11 am

black lotus wrote:
tempest wrote:
cixxxj wrote:when you're lucid you understand what is dope
when you're on weed you understand why is dope


Yeah man I reckon this is pretty spot on in a weird way


i actually agree here too. when you're sober, it's more analytical. when you're floating ass wasted stoned, it's more intuitive.


foreal. lucidity isnt always connected to being sobre though. just extra clarity of mind flow. more depth to the perception and focal point of your own awareness. hence lucid dreaming where you become concious of the fact you are dreaming.

back on topic though, i cut down alot but its nice now and then. again definately not so regularly but some harder substances can be quite entertaining/motivational. last few weeks ive just been on a naturally motivated mission though which is nice.
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Postby serox » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:18 am

I am also into harder things but dont enjoy it sitting in front of a computer:) leave that shit for when I am playing records lol.
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Postby d-T-r » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:25 am

Serox wrote:I am also into harder things but dont enjoy it sitting in front of a computer:) leave that shit for when I am playing records lol.


haha no doubt it has its better time and places. but for more intricate edits and mind fuck glitched music if you have any left overs/spares/large ammount it tends to make the sometimes boring /long winded jobs fly by and even enjoyable.

but yeah being constantly broke means its not so regular. probably for the best.
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Postby sunofselah » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:13 pm

Trust me the zoot always helps!

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Postby jayou » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:27 pm

For example I was working on a tune yesterday for a couple of hours all going fine, decided to take a hit on the bong to stir up some creativity, uh oh! Ended up the next hour playing flash games and reading up on conspiracies. Waste!
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Postby manray » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:46 pm

It's nice to smoke and make melodies but fuck trying to make a decent beat. That shit needs to be done when you are clear headed and technical. If I've been smoking I'll open up some pre-made beats and lay down some sick melodies. Trust some deepness there.

If I try make a full tune it usually sounds completely shit the next day and I dunno about you but fuck trying to polish a turd. I delete that shit.
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