ANYONE FANCY FLYING A FEW PLANES INTO A VERY LARGE BUILDING?

[pk-]

i can see osama bin laden on the shelf above the girl on the right's head

[masstronaut]

@obIwan re: your sig...

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm

Safe! What are you saying, that I can get an avatar from there?

Yeah like this:



I love that article. As far as wild speculation goes it's just pure class.

[shonky]

i can see osama bin laden on the shelf above the girl on the right's head

I think the look on Bush Sr's face says it all - Christ I wish I didn't have a pyramidic nob poking out in front of the grandkids, what will social services say?

[obiwan]

Shonky, you'll feel like a donkey if it all turns out to be true though innit. Don't worry blood my tongue is in my cheek! Did you try typing Q33NYC in windings font on word bruv, that is jokes!!!
Y'all scared. All the real gangstas know the truth on the street, you intellectuals need to get sum testicles, and take off your spectacles.

ps.You have to admit it was worth looking at that kooky site

[pk-]

it could be jesus though

[shonky]

Shonky, you'll feel like a donkey if it all turns out to be true though innit. Don't worry blood my tongue is in my cheek! Did you try typing Q33NYC in windings font on word bruv, that is jokes!!!
Y'all scared. All the real gangstas know the truth on the street, you intellectuals need to get sum testicles, and take off your spectacles.

ps.You have to admit it was worth looking at that kooky site

Oh, definitely, funny as fuck - who you calling an intellectual by the way? That's fighting talk where I come from.

Mind you hello's fighting talk where I come from - 2 syllables'll get you fucked up brainiac.

[moderator]

If we assume for a second that it was the towel heads what done it. Then we have to accept that they don't care about wether they're targets are civilian or milatry. They are just as media savey as western politicians. They did it as much for the message it would convay as anything else.
Make it as much as a spectical as possable and you've won half of the battle. Yes you can argue that this was playing into the neo-con hands, but hasn't the way the west has reacted played as much into they're hand( Islamic extreamists) aswell . You can then argue that our reaction played right in to the hands of Alqies, so as to give more proof of western hegemony over the muslim world.

Not eaten any thing today so excuse me if i'm not making any sence.

Describing people as "towel heads" is not the kind of talk we tolerate on this forum. This is an international site.

Moderator

[obiwan]

How about saying; dutty filthy stinking Babylon, overweight redneck, Bigmac munching, gun toting, bible bashing, pro life/pro death penalty, illiterate, thousand channel watching, Fox news informed, inbred, European rejected, native killing, whip cracking, cracker ass cracker, honky tonk, weak beer drinkng, country music listening, shit eating smiling, tooth flossing, mall rat, have a nice day saying, school shooting, silicone titted, flag saluting izan, bunch of good honest American citizens. Would that count as offensive?

[ramadanman]

If we assume for a second that it was the towel heads what done it. Then we have to accept that they don't care about wether they're targets are civilian or milatry. They are just as media savey as western politicians. They did it as much for the message it would convay as anything else.
Make it as much as a spectical as possable and you've won half of the battle. Yes you can argue that this was playing into the neo-con hands, but hasn't the way the west has reacted played as much into they're hand( Islamic extreamists) aswell . You can then argue that our reaction played right in to the hands of Alqies, so as to give more proof of western hegemony over the muslim world.

Not eaten any thing today so excuse me if i'm not making any sence.

Describing people as "towel heads" is not the kind of talk we tolerate on this forum. This is an international site.

Moderator

Irony

[moderator]

We respect religions here. The turban is a religious and cultural symbol in both South Asia and the Middle East. If you can't make your point without being respectful, then don't make a comment at all.

Moderator

[shonky]

If we assume for a second that it was the towel heads what done it. Then we have to accept that they don't care about wether they're targets are civilian or milatry. They are just as media savey as western politicians. They did it as much for the message it would convay as anything else.
Make it as much as a spectical as possable and you've won half of the battle. Yes you can argue that this was playing into the neo-con hands, but hasn't the way the west has reacted played as much into they're hand( Islamic extreamists) aswell . You can then argue that our reaction played right in to the hands of Alqies, so as to give more proof of western hegemony over the muslim world.

Not eaten any thing today so excuse me if i'm not making any sence.

Describing people as "towel heads" is not the kind of talk we tolerate on this forum. This is an international site.

Moderator

Irony

x2. Not really enough for a ticking off I think - didn't the Alqies bit give it away. Over-reaction, over-sensitive twaddle. Towel head isn't even a particularly accurate insult FFS.

Oh, and Obi that white-liberal guilt's gonna burn you out dude. Presumably all brits love the queen, drink tea and enjoy nothing better than a good game of cricket and have a just sense of fair play old boy!
Most of the anti-american insults you're giving up there apply equally to us brits ya know. Barely literate, drunken, stupid, drug-fucked, celebrity-obsessed, racist, unfit, useless twats that make up...quite a bit of this country.

You may have been trying to be funny though

[metalboxproducts]

We respect religions here. The turban is a religious and cultural symbol in both South Asia and the Middle East. If you can't make your point without being respectful, then don't make a comment at all.

Moderator

And India, I believe. Thats South Asia.

[metalboxproducts]

x2. Not really enough for a ticking off I think - didn't the Alqies bit give it away. Over-reaction, over-sensitive twaddle. Towel head isn't even a particularly accurate insult FFS.



Due to my hyper sesitivaty about these things. I have somehow missed the point here.

[mushug]

You lot might think i'm a paronoid fantasist, and I am. But if you look at all the facts in the big picture I think people are missing all of the hidden signals in the events of the last six years.

Yep.
I don't totally say that it was an inside job, but i don't exclude that option either (Operation Northwoods anyone?), there's a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense...

- the missing plane.
- the way american authority left 3 planes flying under illegal area.
- the quick disappearing of a report proving that the impact of the planes couldn't be the cause of the fall of the towers.
- the explosions before the colapse.
...

We as occidental people - like the "islamic fanatics" - are targets of lots of brainwashing.
Lots of games in the backstage, we are far from the whole truth, we only know one version. Hope it all comes out to the surface some day...

Shame that were innocents dying, in and after the 9 11.

[shonky]

x2. Not really enough for a ticking off I think - didn't the Alqies bit give it away. Over-reaction, over-sensitive twaddle. Towel head isn't even a particularly accurate insult FFS.



Due to my hyper sesitivaty about these things. I have somehow missed the point here.

Sorry, was supporting Ramadanman's view on this. Your use was ironic, as this is the term that's generally used by reactionaries to describe arab peoples. I think the mods are over-reacting. The rest of the argument has some merit even if the word usage may not have been clear.

Quite why we have to respect people's religions is anyone's guess. I can understand why we shouldn't disrespect people due to race, gender or sexual preference, but religion's a hell of a lot vaguer than that. It's essentially just philosophy or politics but with some mystical quotient on top and as such doesn't really merit respect from my godless perspective. If people want to believe, that's fine, but it shouldn't mean that their beliefs aren't going to be held up to scrutiny by non-believers and I don't see why free thinkers shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions about this. Essentially most or all religions are poly-atheist anyway, as only their belief is right.

As atheists, agnostics, brights, or whatever you want to call them don't believe in these religions, surely you're alienating more forum members by disallowing their viewpoint and their wish to challenge established beliefs. As these work in total opposition to religious views I don't quite understand the reaction. If you'd said that this was anti-arab or asian, I could understand the moderator's post.

[metalboxproducts]

x2. Not really enough for a ticking off I think - didn't the Alqies bit give it away. Over-reaction, over-sensitive twaddle. Towel head isn't even a particularly accurate insult FFS.



Due to my hyper sesitivaty about these things. I have somehow missed the point here.

Sorry, was supporting Ramadanman's view on this. Your use was ironic, as this is the term that's generally used by reactionaries to describe arab peoples. I think the mods are over-reacting. The rest of the argument has some merit even if the word usage may not have been clear.


Quite why we have to respect people's religions is anyone's guess. I can understand why we shouldn't disrespect people due to race, gender or sexual preference, but religion's a hell of a lot vaguer than that. It's essentially just philosophy or politics but with some mystical quotient on top and as such doesn't really merit respect from my godless perspective. If people want to believe, that's fine, but it shouldn't mean that their beliefs aren't going to be held up to scrutiny by non-believers and I don't see why free thinkers shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions about this. Essentially most or all religions are poly-atheist anyway, as only their belief is right.

As atheists, agnostics, brights, or whatever you want to call them don't believe in these religions, surely you're alienating more forum members by disallowing their viewpoint and their wish to challenge established beliefs. As these work in total opposition to religious views I don't quite understand the reaction. If you'd said that this was anti-arab or asian, I could understand the moderator's post.

Thanks for clearing that up for me

[shonky]

No biggie - got to support the OTC after all

[metalboxproducts]

Best watch the box size. Ypu know what'll happen.

[moderator]

x2. Not really enough for a ticking off I think - didn't the Alqies bit give it away. Over-reaction, over-sensitive twaddle. Towel head isn't even a particularly accurate insult FFS.



Due to my hyper sesitivaty about these things. I have somehow missed the point here.

Sorry, was supporting Ramadanman's view on this. Your use was ironic, as this is the term that's generally used by reactionaries to describe arab peoples. I think the mods are over-reacting. The rest of the argument has some merit even if the word usage may not have been clear.

Quite why we have to respect people's religions is anyone's guess. I can understand why we shouldn't disrespect people due to race, gender or sexual preference, but religion's a hell of a lot vaguer than that. It's essentially just philosophy or politics but with some mystical quotient on top and as such doesn't really merit respect from my godless perspective. If people want to believe, that's fine, but it shouldn't mean that their beliefs aren't going to be held up to scrutiny by non-believers and I don't see why free thinkers shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions about this. Essentially most or all religions are poly-atheist anyway, as only their belief is right.

As atheists, agnostics, brights, or whatever you want to call them don't believe in these religions, surely you're alienating more forum members by disallowing their viewpoint and their wish to challenge established beliefs. As these work in total opposition to religious views I don't quite understand the reaction. If you'd said that this was anti-arab or asian, I could understand the moderator's post.

Shonky,
This isn't a theology forum. We respect viewpoints but some religious/cultural issues are not up for debate at all. As long as people don't cross the line into a derogatory or stereotypical direction we'll allow it. If someone from a sikh background was on this forum, the term "towelhead " could be EXTREMELY offensive. Sikhism is a religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turban

We have to take this into consideration.

There are other forums where you can toe the line of religious innuendo all day long. This is not one of them.

Moderator

[shonky]

The box things been done now. I've moved on to greener pastures. Still unclear as to why that uses more bandwidth than usual and we've seen the results now so we won't have to do that again.

Curiosity just gets the better of me sometimes.