dubstep and grime

ice9 · Post by **ice9** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:48 am

Spaceboy wrote:grime mc's>bring their friends>bring bad vibes sometimes>violence in party>end of rave/scene/brand....face it, the 50 dont like black music doing well...we know that...

i dont think any of you have ever been to raves when it used to be moody...be it dnb or garage...and i mean real moody...

bigup those who did...and no this aint a new old skool v new skool debate.

Jungle Fevers in 94/95 were much much worse than anything now. Propper dark vibe. Remember at some dodgy sound Carvnical 94 MC's had to tell mans to stop firing guns off when big tunes dropped lol.

But yah to me Dubstep has got a ALOT more common in dub (apart from the obvious) than grime, especially the vibe. And if you have been to a jah shaka sound you'll know what will happen to you if you try to bring bad vibes or kick off.
MC's do seem to bring the bad vibes unfortunatly.

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:56 am

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I don't see how that has anything to do with what I said, but I'd agree on that count. A lot of people want to be an MC.[/quote]

The world and its fuckin east london street teenager mother wants 2 be an MC

spooky · Post by **spooky** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:02 am

i would never ever wanna be a mc
although ive got bars
im a dj and producer and thats all that matters

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:17 am

Mc N-Type! lol!! I thought everyone was takin the piss! I just talk bollox and play riddems, im not an mc. and im a dubstep DJ not grime.

the only bit of mcing (and that was just hosting) ive done @ a rave was in belgium, cos i was fuct out of my head and walshy was on the decks.

"Wheres the noise" kind of shit, nothing amazing, the only bars im hitting are ones wid stella on tap.

Stella in belgium is sexual!! i miss alot!! i cry alot 2! cuddies all round!

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:23 am

poax wrote:the "so my favourite mc is "thread .

hype is hype, guns shanking and crak pedalling is waste.

for me the aggy mcs is what spelt the end of jungle and shit for me (even tho i was one of them utes spittin aggy shit back then!!) but i cant go to a jam that is made for mcs .mc convention , what loads of guys stannin around all minnaminnaminnamad to spit budabudabudabars, wheres the fuckin deejay!!! music is first ,mic man comes somewhere after that!

Big up poax! Init bruv! i cant stand the mc's that do that budabudabuda shit on jungle just to fill up the bars!! they need to right real lyrics or dont.

MUSIC IS FIRST!

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:25 am

buda buda buda?

I thought it was biddibiddibiddi?

Maybe bibbidy?

Anyway, the Scatman's dead so don't take the piss

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:26 am

jungle Mc's i like are GQ, Eksman, Trigga, Bassman, Riko, Skibba, Fearless

n-type · Post by **n-type** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:28 am

Corpsey wrote:buda buda buda?

I thought it was biddibiddibiddi?

Maybe bibbidy?

Anyway, the Scatman's dead so don't take the piss

lol!!

weeeeeee buh buh budda bo, buh buh badda bo, im the scatman!

im the scatmans love child, born from the bum

spooky · Post by **spooky** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:31 am

does music even matter when it comes to grime?

bunzer0 · Post by **bunzer0** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:33 am

N-TYPE wrote:Stella in belgium is sexual!! i miss alot!! i cry alot 2! cuddies all round!

dub boy · Post by **dub boy** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:41 am

autonomic wrote:
NINE wrote:i've just done a census. the number of shit grime mc's in london has been slightly outnumbered by the amount of shitty half step tunes i've heard in the last 4 months.

nail on head. so much griping about grime losing the plot when, outside a few mainstays, so much dubstep's going to shit with a blindfold on.

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Amen to that, all these ruddy dubstep avengalists hating grime....

look, it's like ANY music, some is fookin' wicked, some is gash.

Catch a Pinch b2b Blazey set if you wanna hear Grime n Dubstep being mixed well. They always smash it and it nearly always works very very well.

Whistla · Post by **Whistla** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:48 am

lots of people expressing views so thought i'd drop my 2pence worth in.

Although i rarely feel grime releases (esp the ones with mcs on the vinyl) i gotta say having a "grime" mc (i prefer to jus say mc) over dubstep adds a whole nova dimension to the sound and very often adds loads of energy.

2 recent examples of this are:

D Double over Youngsta @ FWD last week, this was HEAVY!!

Newham Generals and Jammer over Tubby b2b Skream @ FWD couple weeks ago, this showed the benefits of good mcs inna dance (as even when there were deck issues the Gens were keeping the vibes going)

I kno what people are saying with regard to liking it more on the host tip rather than riding the riddim, but i like either. AS LONG AS ITS DUN WELL!!!

Of course there are TONNES of shit mc's and very few good ones

With regard to people going on about dub dont need no mc, have u ever been a dub event? mc's all night. Admittedly they do more of a hosting type thing (which is where i wud say pokes fits in perfect, BIG UP POKES)

I want variation in a night.

The prime example, imho, of weak mcing was when Task was hosting for Youngsta @ one of the DMZ's. I would WAY have prefered to hear Newhams (for example) do a good job rather than Task do (IMO) a weak job

Dont get me wrong, i H8 the whole budabudabuda bollox, but i think that is more often dnb mc's trying to mc over dubstep more than actual dubstep/grime mc's.

(btw fav old skool mc = Robbie Dee)

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:52 am

SPOOKY wrote:does music even matter when it comes to grime?

im surprised youd say that as someone who made Joyride, one of the biggest grime riddems of the year

poax · Post by **poax** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:56 am

Corpsey wrote:buda buda buda?

I thought it was biddibiddibiddi?

Maybe bibbidy?

Anyway, the Scatman's dead so don't take the piss

are you serious , scatman john is dead??

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:00 pm

mos dan wrote:
Alex bk-bk wrote:So I guess i'll get my coat.
i already picked it up. let's go.

Nasty thread.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:08 pm

poax wrote: are you serious , scatman john is dead??

Physically, yes.

poax · Post by **poax** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:09 pm

mentally ?

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:10 pm

I think if you'd heard ''Scatman's World'' you'd know that he died mentally a long long time ago

poax · Post by **poax** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:12 pm

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:20 pm

I cant find no 1 on here who said they hate grime..so where's all this dub step hating grime coming from?? and if i remember rightly it was the grime artists who were not feeling dub step in the day..

Anyway I think the point thats being made is dub step is all about good vybes and the music. Its not about having some 1 chat about guns n ice n wots gonna happen 2 ya if u get seen on road. No 1's knocking what grime artist are doing, there good at wot they do and the likes of roll deep ect have done aloat to push underground music.

im 100% dub step i love it. its in my bones. But that dont mean i dont like grime.i just dont play it.

every 1 has the right to there own opinions but at the end of the day this is a DUB STEP forum.

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