personal dubstep faves 12/17/05

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:03 pm

Digi MystZ - Neverland
Kode9 - Kingstown (dub)
L-Wiz - Girlfriend
Distance - Saints'n'Sinners & Fallen
Scuba - Timba
Skream - I
Boxcutter - Sunshine

^^^^ this is the dubstep sound i love so.. easy vibes seen

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:08 pm

geoff wrote:
r33lc4sh wrote: things u call culture are called sub-culture - let's stick to the proper terms
he used the term micro-culture actually.

read his previous posts, ok?

sub-culture is in fact the dated term.

yea yea it's passe lol

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:08 pm

tronman wrote:Digi MystZ - Neverland
Kode9 - Kingstown (dub)
L-Wiz - Girlfriend
Distance - Saints'n'Sinners & Fallen
Scuba - Timba
Skream - I
Boxcutter - Sunshine

^^^^ this is the dubstep sound i love so.. easy vibes seen

oh man boxcutter is not dubstep producer lol

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:10 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote:Reelcash you've lost me, and ive obviously lost you. lets agree to dissagree mate, peace.

somewhere, someday shall finish that with some beers and bong

dubmugga · Post by **dubmugga** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:18 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote: Dubmugga.
See now im never going to listen to your music. i dont care if you make the best tunes in history, you make me queasy, so its too late for you music. GET THE FUCKING MESSAGE. straight!!!

now you're the type of tnuc we don't want listening to our music cos it's your loss...

...cutting your ears off to spite your face just shows what a clueless little sycophant you really are

I'm picking you're gonna eat your words over the next year...

missused · Post by **missused** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:20 pm

Blackdown: I just hope the spirit of that multiculturalism and a lot of the soundsystem and Jamaican culture that you guys have brought through stays with the sound.

Loefah: Do you think itÂ’s understanding of Jamaican culture or do you think itÂ’s an understanding of London culture? Because I would argue for the latter.

Blackdown: OK how about Â‘soundsystemÂ’ culture?

Loefah: I dunno, I wouldnÂ’t say I know a huge amount about soundsystem culture and what I do I know because of jungle. And IÂ’ve learnt about jungle because of London. IÂ’ve learnt a lot about dub since IÂ’ve been doing dubstep. I knew a bit before but I think weÂ’re writing beats that we would naturally write because of the sounds that have surrounded us as weÂ’ve grown up. You can reference them but I donÂ’t think itÂ’s a Jamaican thing, not for me. Because IÂ’m not Jamaican and I havenÂ’t got a reference to Jamaica. We didnÂ’t chose DMZ to be held in Brixton because of the black population of Brixton, we chose that place [3rd Base part of Mass] because it has been responsible for the badest dances. Soul 2 Soul used to do a dance across the road. St MathewÂ’s church [aka Mass] is old school from London dub. Seriously though, a lot of dub was written in London. [/i]

boys, boys. cease wiv da handbags...

reelcash - links between dubstep and London are irrefutable. maybe you have your own personal context - involving hearing tunes, chatting on forum etc - but it's not a london one, and london is basically the source of dubstep. the context in the case of london is that the music syncs perfectly with the surroundings and, whilst this might also be the case with dubstep and poland as far as you're concerned, it's truer of london becaue dubstep is culturally borne of a whole lot of different stuff (jungle, soundsystems, 2-step etc etc) that arguably could not have come together to produce dubstep anywhere else but london.

no-one's advocating man playing one sort of tunes only (joe nice the best eg of how mixing it up works so well). tru enuff you can do what you like with a tune once you've bought it - call it breakstep/call it dubstep/jump up and down on it - but I don't think consumers have the right to tell long-standing heads who've put in the time/effort that allows you to her the tunes now what's what. mind yer manners innit (tho yours til better than sum on here...)

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:57 pm

missused wrote: reelcash - links between dubstep and London are irrefutable. maybe you have your own personal context - involving hearing tunes, chatting on forum etc - but it's not a london one, and london is basically the source of dubstep. the context in the case of london is that the music syncs perfectly with the surroundings and, whilst this might also be the case with dubstep and poland as far as you're concerned, it's truer of london becaue dubstep is culturally borne of a whole lot of different stuff (jungle, soundsystems, 2-step etc etc) that arguably could not have come together to produce dubstep anywhere else but london.

1. u really don't get what i was trying to say
2. dubstep is becoming not only london thing - as any other genre which originated in london - best example is jungle scene - where do they make best jungle nowadays? - in LA and Toronto and they don't give a shit about london

but I don't think consumers have the right to tell long-standing heads who've put in the time/effort that allows you to her the tunes now what's what. mind yer manners innit (tho yours til better than sum on here...)

1. who are u to judge my manners?

2. i have the right to speak what i think and no one (even the god himself) can't do anything about it

- it's a discussion forum as far as i know so i'm trying to discuss - world stops when people stop to think in their own separate way
3. i'm not only a consumer - actually i'm not a consumer at all hahaha

soulfirecrew · Post by **soulfirecrew** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:07 pm

This thread is hilarious. Thanks for some good laughs.

omen · Post by **omen** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:09 pm

listen dub aint a london thing anyomre im from manchester there is events in manchester

distinction is from leeds there is nites there also an producers

your not gettin wots being sed 2 you

there has bin a number of events over seas in the past few months alone the music was established in london so obviously its gonna have more of an impact to the local boys b4 the sound spreads further

an any war thats going on here u started so jus save it kid shush your mouth if your that intersted in the music an wot shud go on or wot things are called then contribute dont jus sit at your pc an get all mouthy in a forum

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:10 pm

r33lc4sh wrote:
missused wrote: reelcash - links between dubstep and London are irrefutable. maybe you have your own personal context - involving hearing tunes, chatting on forum etc - but it's not a london one, and london is basically the source of dubstep. the context in the case of london is that the music syncs perfectly with the surroundings and, whilst this might also be the case with dubstep and poland as far as you're concerned, it's truer of london becaue dubstep is culturally borne of a whole lot of different stuff (jungle, soundsystems, 2-step etc etc) that arguably could not have come together to produce dubstep anywhere else but london.
1. u really don't get what i was trying to say
2. dubstep is becoming not only london thing - as any other genre which originated in london - best example is jungle scene - where do they make best jungle nowadays? - in LA and Toronto and they don't give a shit about london
but I don't think consumers have the right to tell long-standing heads who've put in the time/effort that allows you to her the tunes now what's what. mind yer manners innit (tho yours til better than sum on here...)
1. who are u to judge my manners?
2. i have the right to speak what i think and no one (even the god himself) can't do anything about it - it's a discussion forum as far as i know so i'm trying to discuss - world stops when people stop to think in their own separate way
3. i'm not only a consumer - actually i'm not a consumer at all hahaha

come on mate. get a grip. ur right it is worldwide . but its still our uk tunes that are being played by the world.

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:14 pm

missused wrote:Blackdown: I just hope the spirit of that multiculturalism and a lot of the soundsystem and Jamaican culture that you guys have brought through stays with the sound.

Loefah: Do you think itÂ’s understanding of Jamaican culture or do you think itÂ’s an understanding of London culture? Because I would argue for the latter.

Blackdown: OK how about Â‘soundsystemÂ’ culture?

Loefah: I dunno, I wouldnÂ’t say I know a huge amount about soundsystem culture and what I do I know because of jungle. And IÂ’ve learnt about jungle because of London. IÂ’ve learnt a lot about dub since IÂ’ve been doing dubstep. I knew a bit before but I think weÂ’re writing beats that we would naturally write because of the sounds that have surrounded us as weÂ’ve grown up. You can reference them but I donÂ’t think itÂ’s a Jamaican thing, not for me. Because IÂ’m not Jamaican and I havenÂ’t got a reference to Jamaica. We didnÂ’t chose DMZ to be held in Brixton because of the black population of Brixton, we chose that place [3rd Base part of Mass] because it has been responsible for the badest dances. Soul 2 Soul used to do a dance across the road. St MathewÂ’s church [aka Mass] is old school from London dub. Seriously though, a lot of dub was written in London. [/i]

boys, boys. cease wiv da handbags...

reelcash - links between dubstep and London are irrefutable. maybe you have your own personal context - involving hearing tunes, chatting on forum etc - but it's not a london one, and london is basically the source of dubstep. the context in the case of london is that the music syncs perfectly with the surroundings and, whilst this might also be the case with dubstep and poland as far as you're concerned, it's truer of london becaue dubstep is culturally borne of a whole lot of different stuff (jungle, soundsystems, 2-step etc etc) that arguably could not have come together to produce dubstep anywhere else but london.

no-one's advocating man playing one sort of tunes only (joe nice the best eg of how mixing it up works so well). tru enuff you can do what you like with a tune once you've bought it - call it breakstep/call it dubstep/jump up and down on it - but I don't think consumers have the right to tell long-standing heads who've put in the time/effort that allows you to her the tunes now what's what. mind yer manners innit (tho yours til better than sum on here...)

excellent points

missused · Post by **missused** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:15 pm

now, now.

1. i do get what you were trying to say. i was just disagreeing.
2. no-1 is disputing your right to say what you want when you want. my comment about your manners would fall into much the same category (tho was a lot more lite-hearted than you took it)
3. i doubt very much that u, of the whole western world, have avoided becoming a consumer. if u have, pls fwd details of how accomplished.
4. oh yeah. whatever.

slengleteng · Post by **slengleteng** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:27 pm

r33lc4sh wrote: where do they make best jungle nowadays? - in LA and Toronto and they don't give a shit about london

dunno about that... most of the new skool north american ragga Jungle is a joke. anda lot of US dnb is a mess.

as someone said earlier, and as Blackdown has expressed so well in his writing, D&B started to lose its way about the time it started to switch from a London or UK based culture into the global movement it is now.

thats not got anything to do with non-Uk heads making poor beats, or not appreciating the music. but have you noticed that the heads who have made the decent or inspiring tunes -for example Teebee, are those who understand and respect the music and its original context and culture.

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:30 pm

RANDOM TRIO wrote: come on mate. get a grip. ur right it is worldwide . but its still our tunes that are being played by the world.

not for long

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:35 pm

r33lc4sh wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote: come on mate. get a grip. ur right it is worldwide . but its still our tunes that are being played by the world.
not for long

by that you mean?

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:36 pm

Slengleteng wrote: dunno about that... most of the new skool north american ragga Jungle is a joke. anda lot of US dnb is a mess.

like usuall but the best new ragga jungle tunes i've heard where from states

as someone said earlier, and as Blackdown has expressed so well in his writing, D&B started to lose its way about the time it started to switch from a London or UK based culture into the global movement it is now.

i disagree the best dnb acts ever (in my opinion) are not uk acts - makai, black sun empire, concord dawn, panacea and many many more

thats not got anything to do with non-Uk heads making poor beats, or not appreciating the music. but have you noticed that the heads who have made the decent or inspiring tunes -for example Teebee, are those who understand and respect the music and its original context and culture.

hmmm actually teebee is boring as hell

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:37 pm

RANDOM TRIO wrote:
r33lc4sh wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote: come on mate. get a grip. ur right it is worldwide . but its still our tunes that are being played by the world.
not for long
by that you mean?

i mean that in in the near future non-london based labels and producers will show up and they will be played worldwide also

natural evolution

missused · Post by **missused** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:40 pm

r33lc4sh wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote: come on mate. get a grip. ur right it is worldwide . but its still our tunes that are being played by the world.
not for long

i'll set my alarm for the revolution. what time, u say??

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:43 pm

yeah but its not happened yet so i agree, show some respect if youre really that into the movement!

r33lc4sh · Post by **r33lc4sh** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:43 pm

missused wrote:
r33lc4sh wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote: come on mate. get a grip. ur right it is worldwide . but its still our tunes that are being played by the world.
not for long
i'll set my alarm for the revolution. what time, u say??

u think i'm a farseer or sth? don't ask me - ask allmighty jah

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