Sends versus Insert

devnull · Post by **devnull** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:42 pm

Hey there

Can someone please explain the difference between sends and inserts? I kind of understand how they work, I am just unsure when you would use a send as opposed to an insert.

Cheers

- devnull

rusto · Post by **rusto** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:44 pm

devnull wrote:Hey there

Can someone please explain the difference between sends and inserts? I kind of understand how they work, I am just unsure when you would use a send as opposed to an insert.

Cheers

- devnull

As far as I'm aware.... sends are for effects like reverb and delays etc, inserts are for processing, such as eq and compression.

I think the difference is inserts change the signal, and sends add to the signal... I could be wrong.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:54 pm

a send bus leaves your original signal dry, or with whatever insert effects you have on the original channel. an insert fx directly effects your original signal.
try this generate a simple midrange bass sound. first apply an insert fx on it of some sort (distortion, reverb, delay whatever will be noticable) have a quick listen. now remove the insert fx and send the signal to a bus. now place that same fx on the send bus and listen to the results now.

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:45 am

Depone wrote:In a conventional hardware studio it makes more sense as there are physical limitations and techniques used.
For example, you would use an aux send, to send a desired amount of a copy of a signal to say, a reverb unit. Then that signal has to come back into the desk on another channel, enabling you to adjust the amount of reverb/blend required with the original 'dry' channel. An insert physically breaks the signal chain on the desk so you can use compression/gates etc...

So really its not Sends VS Inserts, they both have their uses in the physical hardware studio, and shouldn't really be used different in a software studio.

Hope it kinda clears it up. Was trying to be as visual in my description as i can manage 20 mins after a 10 min saliva trip Absolutely wonky

Thats hardcore.
Who's saliva was it?

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:52 am

Depone wrote:
SilentK wrote:
Depone wrote:In a conventional hardware studio it makes more sense as there are physical limitations and techniques used.
For example, you would use an aux send, to send a desired amount of a copy of a signal to say, a reverb unit. Then that signal has to come back into the desk on another channel, enabling you to adjust the amount of reverb/blend required with the original 'dry' channel. An insert physically breaks the signal chain on the desk so you can use compression/gates etc...

So really its not Sends VS Inserts, they both have their uses in the physical hardware studio, and shouldn't really be used different in a software studio.

Hope it kinda clears it up. Was trying to be as visual in my description as i can manage 20 mins after a 10 min saliva trip Absolutely wonky

Thats hardcore.
Who's saliva was it?
Got it from my local head shop. I don't even smoke weed! onto bigger tings

You bought it?
seriously man, why are you paying for saliva...
i can produce a good few litres of the stuff on a good day, for free

can be hard separating it out from the flem sometimes though, i suppose you get the same problem?

caeraphym · Post by **caeraphym** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:56 am

*phlegm

twit!

silentk · Post by **silentk** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:56 am

Caeraphym wrote:*phlegm

twit!

bless you

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:17 am

^ awesome.

you can use sends for parallel processing of things as well-- not just tags with delay/verb etc. provided your DAW has good plug-in delay compensation (most do these days), try sending all your drums to a compressor and mix that in with the originals-- you get the snap of the original sounds w/ the beef of a compressed signal.

(or, if the plug in creates bad delay, you get nasty comb filtering)

in general, anything that's gonna be used on a number of sources-- verbs and delays are the obvious culprits-- can work well as a send.

antipode · Post by **antipode** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:35 am

In a conventional hardware studio it makes more sense as there are physical limitations and techniques used.
For example, you would use an aux send, to send a desired amount of a copy of a signal to say, a reverb unit. Then that signal has to come back into the desk on another channel, enabling you to adjust the amount of reverb/blend required with the original 'dry' channel. An insert physically breaks the signal chain on the desk so you can use compression/gates etc...

this

FSTZ1 · Post by **FSTZ1** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:13 pm

I've been simplifying things in my tunes lately

I'll make a couple of FX tracks and leave it at that

usually one for my filters and one for delays

easy

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:20 pm

Damn this gets asked more than wobble bass these days..

devnull · Post by **devnull** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:33 am

Well I did do a search, and I couldn't find anything that actually answered this question.

But something that I did notice, was that I have never seen Brisance post anything other than derogatory comments. Nothing actually constructive. Very angry little man. Which is a shame as I don't mind his tunes (not exactly 100% my cup of tea, but quite well produced.) Guess he just likes to keep his skills to himself. Which is fine, but why post...??

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:35 am

Depends, where you look, If I have something new or helpful to add to the conversation, I will. I try to be nice, but somehow I end up being a dickhead

sterling · Post by **sterling** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:46 pm

thank you for this thread, ive been curious to know more about inserts myself

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:56 pm

devnull wrote:Well I did do a search, and I couldn't find anything that actually answered this question.

But something that I did notice, was that I have never seen Brisance post anything other than derogatory comments. Nothing actually constructive. Very angry little man. Which is a shame as I don't mind his tunes (not exactly 100% my cup of tea, but quite well produced.) Guess he just likes to keep his skills to himself. Which is fine, but why post...??

tbh the search function on this forum sucks
it brings up all sorts of unrelated crap every time i try to do a general term search

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