For all you reason haters!

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:36 am

I'll continue.

Propellerheads, fix your game up.

Things to sort in Reason:

The Combi. Needs 8 knobs and 8 buttons. If that takes to much screenspace, add it to a hidden panel like the RV7000.

Redrum. Why can't we reverse samples at the click of a button? 4 versions deep and you haven't added this basic feature. WASTE.

NNXT 'Advanced' Sampler. OK, so we can do a fair amount of shit with it, but why can't we tie all of the 'advanced' controls to the combi unit controls? ADSR + Filter cutoff simply makes for a waste Combi. To add insult to injury, it was actually updated somewhat in v4 with the sample import function....

Dr.Rex player 2. The old one is ok, but why can't we chop rexes live like in Liveslice (FL) or any VST sampler..............

.... just warming up....

The filter unit. Bag of shite. BP/LP12/LP24. Why isn't there the HP & Notch filters from the Subtractor/NN19/NNXT? Why do I have to plug shit through the Malstrom to use the Comb filters.... Put it all on one filter unit you retards.

Reason 4. What were you thinking. FAIL.

Thor. Do you know what, don't get me started on that.

Midi editing is waste.

Working with samples is double waste. Why cant we import audio samples directly into the sequencer? Having to trigger the midi from the start of each sample is teeeediooouuuusssss. FAIL.

Bollox, I'm using Reaper for now, and if I get the chance Logic or Cubase 5.

Wish list.

Sample import into Malstrom.

ECF-42 B All the filters from Thor without the fucking long winded process of wiring shit through it and battling drop down menus.

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When is recycle 3 coming out?

In Adobe Audition the user is able to zoom so far into the wave form that they can actually see & fix zero crossings by hand. In Recycle, the is no zero crossing fix, which means rex slices give clicks and pops.

Recycle three needs to be skinable, because currently it is ugly and difficult to look at.

Might as well chuck some decent offline effects processes in there too. Audacity kills Recycle at its own game (beatslicing). Only problem is that it doesn't output rexes because its a proprietry format.

Grrr... haha!

serox · Post by **serox** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:44 am

xTheWiddler wrote:
Serox wrote:
xTheWiddler wrote:screenshot of sensi samurai (note: not all my tunes are this intensly sequenced) just to show that reason is in fact a powerhouse when used to its fullest

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4729/picture1l.png
How come you have so many Reverb units loaded? where are you drums and other sounds being played from?
i use lots of reverbs for the atmosphere, each one has a purpose and is not overused, as for drums i load them into a combi with a redrum hooked up to a mixer, each drum channel is sent to its own mixer channel so i can work with them seperately

any chance we could see whats in your combis?

looks like a lot of stuff used to make a track. Like 10x what I use lol. Is there a link to audio for this track please?

serox · Post by **serox** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:49 am

My biggest problem with Reason was I found the sound from it quite weak. I couldn't get a really good sub/bass from the synths and I found I had to EQ every sound.

I use Cubase and FL now and I have to EQ a lot less and everything still sounds better. There are a few VSTs I use for sub/bass and they sound much bigger than Reason.

I do love Reasons sequencer tho.

I will try it again in a few months to see if I can get more out of it.

fattyknuckles · Post by **fattyknuckles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:15 am

its not the tools its how you use them... you would think all you dumb shits would give up on talking shit about software seeing as how its your opinion and not fact and at that a shitty one cuz you obviously dont know shit because the number of dubstep tunes made with reason is threw the roof.

if your gunna be all closed mined go post on doa with all those cry baby bitches.

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:26 am

haha, can't handle a bit of slagging! It was called for, so some of us have made known our opinions.

Reason is a sick program on the whole, but when you use a tool day in and day out, it's limitations become apparent and rapidly vexxing.

Some of the things I've mentioned wouldn't require much programing, cuz the basic code is already in place (Reverse sample function and filters on one unit for instance)

Waste!

fattyknuckles · Post by **fattyknuckles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:41 am

futures_untold wrote:haha, can't handle a bit of slagging! It was called for, so some of us have made known our opinions.

Reason is a sick program on the whole, but when you use a tool day in and day out, it's limitations become apparent and rapidly vexxing.

Some of the things I've mentioned wouldn't require much programing, cuz the basic code is already in place (Reverse sample function and filters on one unit for instance)

Waste!

^ cry baby.

fattyknuckles · Post by **fattyknuckles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:54 am

nowaysj wrote:I'll step up if we need some shit talking.

Reason is for borderline retards who haven't updated their music making software since 2001 and couldn't work a real synth if they had four hands and a personal tutor.

Shizam there it is, now have your fun.

^ even bigger cry baby.

caeraphym · Post by **caeraphym** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:24 pm

Some real defensive retards here seem real scared about the big wide world of full audio support and VST compatability in a real life actual DAW.

Isn't Reason just a reasonably well put together toy, an improvement on ReBirth, kinda like a sauté placenta with garlic and rosemary still isn't making me hungry s33n?

fattyknuckles · Post by **fattyknuckles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:02 pm

Caeraphym wrote:Some real defensive retards here seem real scared about the big wide world of full audio support and VST compatability in a real life actual DAW.

seriously, who cares. people that feel a need to preach over software shit need to get over it and just make music.

"eww you use reason" big fucking deal.

fattyknuckles · Post by **fattyknuckles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:08 pm

futures_untold wrote:haha, can't handle a bit of slagging! It was called for, so some of us have made known our opinions.

Reason is a sick program on the whole, but when you use a tool day in and day out, it's limitations become apparent and rapidly vexxing.

Some of the things I've mentioned wouldn't require much programing, cuz the basic code is already in place (Reverse sample function and filters on one unit for instance)

Waste!

you're tunes sound like reason user demos.

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:26 pm

Your brutal honesty is refreshing

The pad in Ghosts is simply two Malstrom oscillators with no effects. There are several factory soundbank rexes in 'Bristol' and 'Breakbeat thingy'. The arpy trancey track was just a two hour muck around, nothing complicated.... It relies heavily on Albino 3 presets.

Certainly nothing to write home about, I admit, but I'm not bigging up my music production skills here am I.

All the tunes I'm happy about I'm keeping close to my chest. They'll be released when I'm ready, and the productions will speak for themselves.

My previous 'gripes/points' remain.

serox · Post by **serox** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:28 pm

fattyknuckles wrote:
you're tunes sound like reason user demos.

The new internet bully!

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:31 pm

Caeraphym wrote:Isn't Reason just a reasonably well put together toy, an improvement on ReBirth.

Put so simply, I guess you're right.

I guess I need to stfu and go make some tunes for a bit!

Reaper 4 life! haha

paradigm_x · Post by **paradigm_x** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:17 pm

i hated reason personally. that tiny fidlly little crappy sequancer and having to scroll up and down past 8 identical units...

im sure people can use it well, not disputing it, just could not get on with it at all myself.

Cubase and Acid for me.

serox · Post by **serox** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:32 pm

Paradigm X wrote:i hated reason personally. that tiny fidlly little crappy sequancer and having to scroll up and down past 8 identical units...

im sure people can use it well, not disputing it, just could not get on with it at all myself.

Cubase and Acid for me.

som1 should have told you you can separate the sequencer so its full screen:p

Also if you click on the source you want to work on on the left hand side it takes u straight to the desired unit.

Or you can close all units and open the one you need and then close it when done. Nothing worse than messing with the wrong units buttons anyway so its nice habit to get into.

miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:36 pm

nowaysj wrote:I'll step up if we need some shit talking.

Reason is for borderline retards who haven't updated their music making software since 2001 and couldn't work a real synth if they had four hands and a personal tutor.

Shizam there it is, now have your fun.

major lol. what a load of bollocks!

serox · Post by **serox** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:42 pm

It is quite weak to try and put Reason (or any other DAW down) really. There are a lot of producers who are making good music that is getting signed on good labels and filling dance floors that has been made on Reason.

I just prefer using something else at the moment and I wouldn't say its shit or for retards and not possible to make good music on.

botched · Post by **botched** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:45 pm

Reason is what it is, leave it at that you girls

I started on it and it ulitmelty helps people understand the dynamics of sequencers, music production.

I.M.O.

fattyknuckles · Post by **fattyknuckles** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:59 pm

futures_untold wrote:Your brutal honesty is refreshing

The pad in Ghosts is simply two Malstrom oscillators with no effects. There are several factory soundbank rexes in 'Bristol' and 'Breakbeat thingy'. The arpy trancey track was just a two hour muck around, nothing complicated.... It relies heavily on Albino 3 presets.

Certainly nothing to write home about, I admit, but I'm not bigging up my music production skills here am I.

All the tunes I'm happy about I'm keeping close to my chest. They'll be released when I'm ready, and the productions will speak for themselves.

My previous 'gripes/points' remain.

so you understand how goofy you sound talking shit about the program you use right?

and as far as internet bully? nah mate. im saving those put downs for the real bastard statements like "i dj with ableton live" or "pro tools is the best daw ever"

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