The Pharcyde - Runnin' (Kid Logic RMX) [Free 320]

[kellydean]

extranormous website down.



BIG IT LUKE!!!!

The world needs more logical kids!

[bellybelle]

1. i never said the remixes (lol) were bad.

2. if everyone posted shitty tracks on here and everyone else was always like "wow big tune mate, 320?" then those producers are just encouraged to make shitty tracks. if someone does post some wack shit you gotta call them out on it, and note specifically why their music is bad, then they can work on it.

Ok. Then taking a note from what you consider proper protocol, I'll be kind enough to inform you that you were rude, dismissive, and illogical (because to judge one genre by another genres standards completely misses the mark). Your graduated attacks belie your concern over those poor people who stumbled on the video for an explanation of dubstep. You assert that this video will be used as some sort of standard for dubstep, which this never was nor did the producer intend it to be so. Your parenthetical notation above was only included to be further derisive, which is not only rude, but a thinly veiled half assed backwards compliment so that if further pressed you could backtrack and say, "Hey I never did say they were bad."

Might I make a suggestion to you that perhaps you could take to heart?

Following your civic duty to alert an artist to your subjective opinion, I will do my civic duty to alert you of making a shitty post. You represented yourself in such a manner that will make it harder for people to ever hear you if you don't know how to communicate with others. Perhaps you can work on your communication skills as they definitely need improvement.

Also....real strength and pride and courage comes from knowing when to shut up as much as when to speak.

Lastly, you don't have to say something negative to show you're paying attention. Sometimes people feel like they have to say something bad when someone else is praised because they feel like they're being slighted with attention. You want attention so bad? Make something so good that someone else posts up on dubstepforum praising you. Make that your new goal....because it never elevates you to tear someone else down...you don't become better by making someone look bad....in fact, you just make yourself look worse.

[kidlogic]

But taking the same song and adding another rapper doing an extra verse while not changing anything else about the tune is?

no. i'm not a fan of that practice either lol.

My point was that in the hip hop world, that is considered a remix, as in the dubstep world so are mine.

It is dubstep - Its at 140 and has subbass. That is the agreed upon definition of dubstep, at least here on this board.

but people who dont know what dubstep is who hear your remixes are gonna be like "umm where are the verses? is this an instrumental? it sounds different though..."

What's your point? Im sure loads of people everyday hear dubstep and say the same thing. Isnt the point of a remix to sound different than the original, regardless of what genre its been made into? Consider it downtempo if its not dubstep enough for you then.

I didnt want to sample the source material on '93 till because I like how it was used in the hip hop tune. I also wanted to use the vocals, but there is no accapella anywhere that I could find, and I looked for three days.

whats the point in remixing it then, if you liked it the way it is?

I said I liked how it was used, not that I necessarily wanted to play the hip hop tune. Key words in that being 'how it was used'.

On the Pharcyde remix I did sample the original Stan Getz tune, because I wanted more flexibility with trying to make it sound more like Dilla's / the Pharcyde's version at a slower tempo.

if you wanted to do that you could just pitch it down... this is what i dont understand. you're making a remix but you just wanted to recreate dilla's flip of a sample.

Did I say I wanted to recreate it? No, I said I liked it, and wanted it to sound similar to the original at a slower tempo. Key word in that being 'similar'. Have you ever pitched a tune down or up 30-40 bpm? Totally changes the tune, in pitch and how the rythym feels. I didnt want that. I wanted a dubstep tune with those samples in it.

Are those answers good for you? Is it ok? Ive had the fucking worst day today, and this bullshit of yours has only made it even worse. So thanks for your contribution, its really been nice.

[kidlogic]

extranormous website down.



BIG IT LUKE!!!!

The world needs more logical kids!

Hmmm... Ill have to look into that... the domain is just a redirect to www.virb.com/extranormous - so in the meantime, just go to it directly...

Thanks for the heads up Kelly.

[aftee]

belly, I'm not too sure he can handle all those big words.

http://dictionary.reference.com/

and logic, seriously I wouldn't stress it

all this guy does is bitch about stuff, quite a few of them on the forums I'm sure you know that..can't have a perfect community free of bitching and fighting but we can hope eh? This is why I normally stay in the dubs section or hop in the dubstep.fm chat, only places I find peace sometimes

they're your tunes and you made them the way you wanted..which is respectable and what a real musician does

the day you start producing to somebody elses standards is the day you start going down hill...so keep up what you're doing and produce for yourself, which is what it seems that you did here

the tracks are great, don't let 1 narrow minded prick internet bad man fuck up your day.

[kidlogic]

Much appreciated Aftee... for all you've said in this thread... its just been one of those days and I cant leave this dude's replies alone...

Thanks again to all who supported this EP! Youre all big!

[constrobuz]

Ok. Then taking a note from what you consider proper protocol, I'll be kind enough to inform you that you were rude, dismissive, and illogical (because to judge one genre by another genres standards completely misses the mark). Your graduated attacks belie your concern over those poor people who stumbled on the video for an explanation of dubstep. You assert that this video will be used as some sort of standard for dubstep, which this never was nor did the producer intend it to be so. Your parenthetical notation above was only included to be further derisive, which is not only rude, but a thinly veiled half assed backwards compliment so that if further pressed you could backtrack and say, "Hey I never did say they were bad."

Might I make a suggestion to you that perhaps you could take to heart?

Following your civic duty to alert an artist to your subjective opinion, I will do my civic duty to alert you of making a shitty post. You represented yourself in such a manner that will make it harder for people to ever hear you if you don't know how to communicate with others. Perhaps you can work on your communication skills as they definitely need improvement.

Also....real strength and pride and courage comes from knowing when to shut up as much as when to speak.

Lastly, you don't have to say something negative to show you're paying attention. Sometimes people feel like they have to say something bad when someone else is praised because they feel like they're being slighted with attention. You want attention so bad? Make something so good that someone else posts up on dubstepforum praising you. Make that your new goal....because it never elevates you to tear someone else down...you don't become better by making someone look bad....in fact, you just make yourself look worse.

ZZZzzzzz tl;dr

Isnt the point of a remix to sound different than the original, regardless of what genre its been made into?

this was my point.

Are those answers good for you? Is it ok? Ive had the fucking worst day today, and this bullshit of yours has only made it even worse. So thanks for your contribution, its really been nice.

if it makes you feel any better i've had diarrhea all day.

[bellybelle]

ZZZzzzzz tl;dr

well if that was too much for you, why would i trust in your opinion about quality?


i do hope that was short enough...

[constrobuz]

well if that was too much for you, why would i trust in your opinion about quality?


i do hope that was short enough...

willingness to read long posts on message boards and taste in music are unrelated.

[kidlogic]

Isnt the point of a remix to sound different than the original, regardless of what genre its been made into?

this was my point.

So let me get this straight... Youre saying it isnt a remix because it sounds like the original, but that people will be confused because it doesnt sound like the original and they wont know what it is?

Are those answers good for you? Is it ok? Ive had the fucking worst day today, and this bullshit of yours has only made it even worse. So thanks for your contribution, its really been nice.

if it makes you feel any better i've had diarrhea all day.

Diarrhea of the mouth? You've had that longer than a day...

[constrobuz]

So let me get this straight... Youre saying it isnt a remix because it sounds like the original, but that people will be confused because it doesnt sound like the original and they wont know what it is?

people will be confused because it sounds like original but without the verses and hence not a remix (in a hip hop fans eyes).

[aftee]

is there a dubstep forum that isn't full of ignorant fucks like this where administration makes them vanish? if so let me know in a pm

untill then I think I'm going to stick with the dubs section and not much more. The one day I decide to come out and post some stuff on here I just get a headache with all of the bullshit.

seriously, somebody like you doesn't need to put up with "criticism" ...i take that back, doesn't need to put up with illogical bullshit from somebody looking to waste some time and bitch bitch bitch

I've yet to see a meaningful post out of this guy, did your mother never teach you the manners most kids learn?

If you like it cool, if you don't cool. If you want to give him feedback, awesome.

What are you doing? Bitching about his intent behind his tracks basically, this is not feedback nor anything with value behind it.

go chop up some shitty samples, layer some kicks in them and have them hit 2-3 times every 4 steps, that right there is some beautiful music you got goin on

[aftee]

So let me get this straight... Youre saying it isnt a remix because it sounds like the original, but that people will be confused because it doesnt sound like the original and they wont know what it is?

people will be confused because it sounds like original but without the verses and hence not a remix (in a hip hop fans eyes).

tough shit? let them be fucking confused

he remixed the way HE wanted to, sorry if he didn't take the hip hop community as a whole into consideration first

this must be what you're doing with your tracks right?

beautiful stuff.

[aftee]

well if that was too much for you, why would i trust in your opinion about quality?


i do hope that was short enough...

willingness to read long posts on message boards and taste in music are unrelated.

if you can't spare a minute to read a post, then you must not be able to actually OPEN your mind up a bit and listen to a track for more than 10 seconds?

Surprisingly they are a bit related when you think about it for a minute. Isn't that some shit?

[constrobuz]

hop off kidlogics dick, homey

[kidlogic]

So let me get this straight... Youre saying it isnt a remix because it sounds like the original, but that people will be confused because it doesnt sound like the original and they wont know what it is?

people will be confused because it sounds like original but without the verses and hence not a remix (in a hip hop fans eyes).

Have you even heard the original? Im seriously asking, because for you to say it sounds just like the original, but without the lyrics is just dumb.

Yes, it sounds similar, that was the point.

To be honest, I dont really care what the average hip hop fan says, because I didnt make it for them. Nor did I make or post the video. Nor did I ever intend for it to be a standard by which anyone judges what is or isnt hip hop, dubstep or a remix. I made it for myself to play, the way I wanted it to be. People liked it, so I gave it out.

Im done. Ive already explained myself more than enough in this thread. I have given you far more time than you are worth.

I am finally off work, and leaving.

Again, biggups to those who have supported this release. It is extremely appreciated.

[aftee]

hop off kidlogics dick, homey

No thanks, it's comfy on here.

Supporting an amazing track and defending it from the likes of you.
Do me a favor and stop returning to this forum if you have nothing but negative things to say everytime you post.

[billy the robot]

Yo thanks Kid Logic!! Nice work

[metaphase]

love the remix

dont listen 2 tha hater.

[spek lives]

fuck all the bullshit! this is a bulls eye hit "REMIX". BIG UP for getting this out there, esp for free. will def be spinning this tune on a lounge tip