Dub step VS Drum and Bass

disma · Post by **disma** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:39 pm

Hey all, i've been producing drum and bass aswell as dub step for a couple of years now. And it seems alot more effort is put in to get a good drum and bass sound... rather than a dubstep tune...

I think this rings true in the stuff we hear today. The good stuff coming out of drum and bass today is sooo rich in production quality, and i'm yet to be convinced and dub producers have come close to creating sounds as good as the ones i've heard in d'n'b productions (e.g. Spor - Valentine.. Noisia - Exodus, The panacea - cryptonomicon... pendulum..)

Can someone convince me otherwise?

Feel free to flame

nova.k · Post by **nova.k** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:42 pm

There was also a point where DNB lost it's raw underground sound and became overproduced.

I love both genres, but I feel dubstep is cutting more new ground, where dnb has stagnated a little.

rendr · Post by **rendr** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:44 pm

It's all about the Jungle bra.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:48 pm

dnb became a nice loudness and peep my production skills war to me and a bunch of wannabes trying to copy every big name producers sound with engineering skill but no musical ability to write anything remotely unique
oh yea and what the fuck happened to dynamics in dnb?

that being said it's all about the choppage and drumfunk

oh and you're gonna get the shit flamed out of you btw
this will prolly end up just as retarded as the i hate wobble thread on here and the 140bpm thread on the main forum

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:48 pm

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:51 pm

Joe C wrote:DIE

rather extreme

Pallms · Post by **Pallms** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:53 pm

disma wrote:The good stuff coming out of drum and bass today is sooo rich in production quality, and i'm yet to be convinced and dub producers have come close to creating sounds as good as the ones i've heard in d'n'b productions (e.g. Spor - Valentine.. Noisia - Exodus, The panacea - cryptonomicon... pendulum..)

All post credibility has been lost.

rynke · Post by **rynke** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:56 pm

disma wrote:And it seems alot more effort is put in to get a good drum and bass sound... rather than a dubstep tune...

what are you exactly talking about? i dont get your point...

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:56 pm

disma wrote:The panacea

This !!!

production level is through the roof, and some insanely intense beats

EDIT

allthough that said, if you are struggling to find high levels of production in dubstep, you either arent looking hard enough, or looking at all

LEQ · Post by **LEQ** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:57 pm

*Dubstep.

DOOMTROOPER/T40 · Post by **DOOMTROOPER/T40** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:02 pm

Dubstep > DnB. ALWYSA
I;m fucked btw. but i reckon idubstep OWNs dnb

rendr · Post by **rendr** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:03 pm

Before the bitching starts....
PERSONAL PREFERENCE!

disma · Post by **disma** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:10 pm

So can anyone recommend some well produced tunes?

I'm not slating dubstep (it serves a great purpose), i'm just not hearing the quality (production wise) that i'd expect from other electronic genres...

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:11 pm

disma wrote:So can anyone recommend some well produced tunes?

I'm not slating dubstep (it serves a great purpose), i'm just not hearing the quality (production wise) that i'd expect from other electronic genres...

dont listen to it.

drokkr · Post by **drokkr** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:11 pm

disma wrote:e.g. Spor - Valentine.. Noisia - Exodus, The panacea - cryptonomicon... pendulum..

do seriously put pendulum in with spor, noisia and panacea?

look a bit deeper into dubstep before you decide on it's production values.

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:13 pm

Rendr wrote:Before the bitching starts....

.............

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:14 pm

pendulum's production is amazing
their tune content on the other hand...

disma · Post by **disma** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:23 pm

Right... so where is this tune then?

nova.k · Post by **nova.k** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:26 pm

part of the awesome in dubstep is what is not there... all the timeless tracks in dnb are the same.. look at bukem for example

notch · Post by **notch** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:27 pm

People still listen to drum and bass?? I think it's just because drum and bass, you have a lot more drum fills and other rather annoying sounds throughout the song.... Dubstep is pretty striped down as far as the number of traks that are in the tune on average.. Maybe it's cause drum and bass is faster and has an higher bpm we precieve the production value as harder.. Can I remind you that in terms of how long the genre has been around compared to drum and bass dubstep has still has not peaked at all, its still a baby relatively speaking.. Personally i can't stand drum and bass it gives me a head ache its way to fast..

BOXCUTTER has some amazing production..

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