Dub step VS Drum and Bass

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:22 am

futures_untold wrote:
The_Dza88 wrote:
The_Dza88 wrote:
futures_untold wrote:Ah, I feel the DZA in me

Wait thats sounds slightly wrong, you can feel me in you, meaning inside you which soully comes down to me raping you (no homo)

SMH....

Dirty boy, dirty mind

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:19 pm

disma wrote:Hey all, i've been producing drum and bass aswell as dub step for a couple of years now. And it seems alot more effort is put in to get a good drum and bass sound... rather than a dubstep tune...

I think this rings true in the stuff we hear today. The good stuff coming out of drum and bass today is sooo rich in production quality, and i'm yet to be convinced and dub producers have come close to creating sounds as good as the ones i've heard in d'n'b productions (e.g. Spor - Valentine.. Noisia - Exodus, The panacea - cryptonomicon... pendulum..)

Can someone convince me otherwise?

Feel free to flame

LOUD ≠ GOOD

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disma · Post by **disma** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:33 pm

I said rich not loud *tut* try again...

magma · Post by **magma** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:18 pm

I like bits from both. You can't dismiss someone like Spor's skills, but so much DnB I get to hear (since I'm not checking DoA for tunes every week anymore) has way to much tendancy to be overproduced... I find that with all that studio shine you lose a little bit of the emotion (compare Goldie's vocal tunes to Pendulum's for example)... plus, I've got bored of all the cliches that get used over and over (kick drum buildup, pause a beat, hit with a jump up break). You mention Pendulum who are amazing producers, but somewhat lacking on the artistic front... pretty soulless stuff. There's probably soulful DnB out there (and I don't mean that as a synonym for 'jazzy' or 'liquid').... but all I ever get to hear is jump up stuff. I like jump up music (hell, I'm a Caspa/Rusko-defender around here!), but I like a bit of variety - which is what I thinks been lacking from DnB for a little while.

I never quite got the move to DnB from Jungle, tbh... find Jungle way more exciting. Actually there's very little on the planet that can make me energetic/happy as quickly as a serious Congo Natty session...

I don't really think either genre out of DnB or Dubstep is "better". They're just frameworks for artists to work within. I definitely hear more interesting music coming out of the Dubstep scene, but then I check for it a whole lot more...

scooterjack · Post by **scooterjack** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:25 pm

no matter what the genre, i'd much rather listen to a raw tune that is interesting/exciting/emotional than any polished turd, no matter how shiny that turd may be

rendr · Post by **rendr** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:27 pm

Magma wrote:There's probably soulful DnB out there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ_oRu33Or0
Bam!

magma · Post by **magma** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:43 pm

Rendr wrote:
Magma wrote:There's probably soulful DnB out there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ_oRu33Or0
Bam!

If only it didn't have the same cut-n-paste DnB break all the way through it.... when did DnB start only having one drumbeat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mSsYPSKUoY - Soulful Junglism!

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:50 pm

you both fail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWgTfTqaL04

david · Post by **david** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:12 pm

Magma wrote:
If only it didn't have the same cut-n-paste DnB break all the way through it.... when did DnB start only having one drumbeat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mSsYPSKUoY - Soulful Junglism!

magma this is sic..

im probably a few years late but does anyone still make this kinda dnb ?

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:22 pm

David wrote:
Magma wrote:
If only it didn't have the same cut-n-paste DnB break all the way through it.... when did DnB start only having one drumbeat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mSsYPSKUoY - Soulful Junglism!
magma this is sic..

im probably a few years late but does anyone still make this kinda dnb ?

have to do some digging
peep this release http://www.digital-tunes.net/releases/t ... ____vol__1

magma · Post by **magma** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:59 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:you both fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWgTfTqaL04

Nice!

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:27 pm

Magma wrote:I never quite got the move to DnB from Jungle, tbh... find Jungle way more exciting. Actually there's very little on the planet that can make me energetic/happy as quickly as a serious Congo Natty session...

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. I at one point described it as "DAWs became more affordable so jungle producers could do more with their music, except that they did less and that's what people called drum bass". Not entirely accurate, but you get the point. To me, the drum programming was the entire damn point of jungle, which has since been reduced to looped Amen breaks with jump-up rhythms played with a 909 with a distorted snare. Song starts with a saw wave melody > Amen break with an automated low pass filter kicks in > jump up rhythm kicks in with some joyful melody > way too many bass drops that only distract from the song as a whole.

Yes, definitely not all drum n bass is like that, but that style has come to define what the general music audience has come to expect from the it. Such an atrocity. It's really no fun to dance or listen to.

Thank God for breakcore with ridiculous drum programming. ='0

Oh and as for 'modern' dnb that is actually ridiculously good:

BOO-YAH

Amazing what Benn does when he's not going absolutely ridiculous with his drums (which I obviously love wit' all my heart too).

And raggacore is an amazing update to ragga-jungle, I actually generally prefer raggacore... So fiends who like the ragga-jungle thang and miss it should get wit' it

megaladon · Post by **megaladon** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:31 pm

Does sub Focus make you want to shoot yourself?

magma · Post by **magma** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:16 pm

Genevieve wrote:Thank God for breakcore with ridiculous drum programming. ='0

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:01 am

speaking of breakcore anyone know wtf 0=0 is up to?

dynamat · Post by **dynamat** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:37 am

Brekcore gets me wet everytime

Lurka · Post by **Lurka** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:13 am

love both drum and bass and dubstep, exciting stuff in both sounds for sure! just have to have a proper look!

check this martsman tune on the subtle audio ep, called some minimal business, love dropping this one as people dont know what the fuck is going on for the most part ahaha

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/314997-01.htm

Lurka · Post by **Lurka** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:15 am

also check out med school, not really too keen on hospital for the most part, but med school are definitely doing it right imo!

arawanadi · Post by **arawanadi** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:43 pm

I Think the whole we wanna sound like professional producers crab killed most of the vibes of D and B. Optical. Lots of early Metalheadz stuff and Photek etc. etc. isnt rocketscience productionwise, but it has tons of character. Perfect Production doesnt compensate lack of musical ideas and ability. If youve got nothing to say youve got nothing to say..And by the way what is a good production ??? Mala, Headhunter and Distance is produced good enough. And guys wassup with Burial or El B the arent technichal guys but the make the best music. When you take a look at the DOA forum you get the feel its all about beeing 18 plugins deep in the channel

Lurka · Post by **Lurka** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:49 pm

Arawanadi wrote:producers crab killed most of the good dnb producers

it was a massacre!!!!!!!

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