First take at dubstep, any tips?

pepecc · Post by **pepecc** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:32 pm

I've lately been trying to learn some production. Here's my first take at dubstep:
steppaa192.mp3
Any (constructive) criticism or tips would be much appreciated..

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:03 pm

sub in the first part sounding far too muddy on my system

atmospherics are quite good

a bit ploddy

but not bad for a first go

parson · Post by **parson** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:09 pm

your bassline doesn't seem to have much bass

maybe its just low-end muddiness i dunno

it would be much mo better if you could swap out yr bass sound for something else with more weight/presence

pepecc · Post by **pepecc** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:25 pm

Thanks for listening. The sub was made by looking at the frequency analyzer, as I don't own anything that could play it..

Now that I listen to it the hats sound a bit too busy too. Well, thanks for the tips.

parson · Post by **parson** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:32 pm

yeah you shouldn't use a frequency analyzer until you've got a bass that sounds nice and full and then see if you have it too loud

just because something shows up as having lots of low end, you're still gonna have to trust your ears/ribcage/paintings rumbling on the walls

my printer rattles in a certain way that tells me the bass is good

if your neighbors aren't mad at you, you should look for a better tone

edit: i listened on headphones and it does have more bass actually than i was hearing earlier, i might have had my sub turned down. still a bit muddyish

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:13 pm

Pepecc wrote: The sub was made by looking at the frequency analyzer, as I don't own anything that could play it..

noooooooooo!

music is about hearing

tes la rok · Post by **tes la rok** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:03 am

Pepecc wrote:I've lately been trying to learn some production. Here's my first take at dubstep:
steppaa192.mp3
Any (constructive) criticism or tips would be much appreciated..

nice beats, sounds like a real drums. i reckon bass is there, it could be maybe a bit louder but sub-frequences r there. atmosphere is nice and durty. really good piece if this is ur first dubstep track, big up! good future ahead.

i978 · Post by **i978** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:51 am

I agree with everyone above that the bass lacks definition. I'm not in the best listening environment at the moment (crappy speakers at work) but it sounds like you've just eq'd all the top end out of your bass. The mid/high frequencies are just as important in a bass sound as the fundamental frequency. You can actually trick your ears into thinking there is a low frequency there when there isn't just by having the right mix of upper harmonics. Sounds like you've put a bit of reverb on your bass as well - this is generally not a good idea as far as the low end of the spectrum goes as your ears can't really distinguish low frequencies that well. A reverb is essentially hundreds of delays - there is too much going on producing mud. Putting some verb on the upper frequencies of a bass sound can fatten things up a bit though - this is very common. One last thing about your bass sound - you may have spent ages creating your bass but when it comes to mixing you can't let yourself become too attached to it - you have to be ruthless - if it doesn't work then you just have to change it.

I do like the strings - very cool. Don't think the hats are too busy at all. Generally speaking this is good stuff - just needs a few tweaks. Keep at it.

pepecc · Post by **pepecc** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:27 pm

Thanks you all, this is just the kind of advice I was looking for. I'll have to get a hang of this sub thingie...

lycaon_prod · Post by **lycaon_prod** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:30 pm

i really fuckin lke this.
like this live, sampled raw hip hoppy feel
very atmospheric n cinematic
subtle but really moody
as has been said though
clean the bass up like the line n the sound is pretty cool too
just is really boxy. take off any verb n maybe cut some of the low mid n you could fix it
where do i recognise that string sample from?!
also , hats are too rigid n some of the snare fills are a bit jarring try n smooth m out.
fix up the little problems n you got a real nice track.
props!

First take at dubstep, any tips?

First take at dubstep, any tips?

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