Independant article on Dubstep vs Snoop debate

[plastician]

halfstepped blog house

I want to start a new genre if that name is available!!

[selrahc]

halfstepped blog house

I want to start a new genre if that name is available!!

if it involves gucci mane i'm not mad

[elgato]

that girl that wrote the article is the editor's daughter. so if yr wondering why such a load of poorly-researched, ill written and generally shitty drivel got published........ there you go.

haha! ridiculous! i was wondering how that one got the nod

(its the response article btw not the lead)

[legend4ry]

Not meant in a rude way but this is all set up so the general public of America will actually take notice to the scene!?! Seems a bit like begging people to listen to the music really - cause if snoop or busta is on it, they think people will listen.. but they will just be like.. "oh you like they new snoop tune on the radio?" not .. "oh you like that dubstep tune what has Snoop's vocals?" Not saying its an effort wasted but if you want to find the scene, you'll find it like most of us don't have to dumb it down a bit just to get joe "listens to FM radio" public to listen to it if they want it, they will find it just my views on it, its good for the scene though!

We've all be doing our thing to push the scene to where it is ow - just a bit of a downer that its taken a big collab like this for it to be taken some-what serious by the mainstream, its kinda like both parties need to do something new otherwise it'll never get big / big again when as a scene we've been strong since day! The music still carries the same morals and vibes (to some extent) and I don't think some people will get what its about and will just like a bit of bass in the chest! Which is all fine a dandy as long as it doesn't forget where it came from - its not even the new people to the scene I am worried about, its the ones who have been here for a while being pushed out by the new wave of people, like all those people from 2006 who you never hear of anymore...

[tronn]

I dont think its "begging US heads" to listen to the scene at all. When we come across music we want to listen, we will, regardless of how hard it may be to find (which alot of dubstep is not).

I think its awesome that these high profile rappers are taking notice, if anything that just helps to prove how sick the dubstep genre is. Rappers that have more money and recognition than theyll ever need for life, still know quality music when they hear it. And frankly the dubstep producers deserve it. There are way too many dubstep beats that sound better than 70% of what mainstream hip hop producers churn out, and those guys will get paid at 10K+ per song.

Granted that Snoop + Chase & Status wasn't that good, but that was the first of many collabs, and as more come to fruition, the sound will get refined, and rappers will find the producers they can work with, and that sound will get better. If Chimpo/MRK1s album from a year or two back was any indication, I have faith that these collabs can churn out some hit tunes.

Saying that these collabs will be the death of dubstep is just naysaying, and, as always, if you don't like the way the sound is going you can always by some equipment and crank out your own tunes.

[jackquinox]

Not meant in a rude way but this is all set up so the general public of America will actually take notice to the scene!?! Seems a bit like begging people to listen to the music really - cause if snoop or busta is on it, they think people will listen.. but they will just be like.. "oh you like they new snoop tune on the radio?" not .. "oh you like that dubstep tune what has Snoop's vocals?" Not saying its an effort wasted but if you want to find the scene, you'll find it like most of us don't have to dumb it down a bit just to get joe "listens to FM radio" public to listen to it if they want it, they will find it just my views on it, its good for the scene though!

We've all be doing our thing to push the scene to where it is ow - just a bit of a downer that its taken a big collab like this for it to be taken some-what serious by the mainstream, its kinda like both parties need to do something new otherwise it'll never get big / big again when as a scene we've been strong since day! The music still carries the same morals and vibes (to some extent) and I don't think some people will get what its about and will just like a bit of bass in the chest! Which is all fine a dandy as long as it doesn't forget where it came from - its not even the new people to the scene I am worried about, its the ones who have been here for a while being pushed out by the new wave of people, like all those people from 2006 who you never hear of anymore...

What has this scene got to do with mainstream american pop music artists all I imagine happened was that some fat music promoter went on you tube, stumbled across a video, seen dollar signs, phoned snoops agent and said something along these lines:

"hey snoops agent someone made a mash up of your clients vocals on some little shitty britsh bands music, its going hype on the internet there have been way over 100,000 views, I think we can earn you another few mill to go along with the royalties coming off your mans bullshits tv show and you wont have to spend $100,000 on promoting the single as everyone that wants it is already bleeding at the gash to own it, so is it cool if I take my 10% finders fee now we can bleed the musicians dry later on and then use timberland or some other pirate unoriginal leeching producer to make more music like this with a more commercial edge at a later date if this happens to sell more copies than expected"

Call me what you will but you know its true its fucking pop music and its a money making business......

[computer rock]

that girl that wrote the article is the editor's daughter. so if yr wondering why such a load of poorly-researched, ill written and generally shitty drivel got published........ there you go.

actually the piece is quite well-researched. she inquired about the background of the project, interviewed the main people involved (plastic and elcher) and basically got all of the facts right. that's far more than most "experts" on here would ever dare to achieve in their dreams.

We are talking about this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 73737.html

Not the original article.