what you some keeper to the dubstep gates? give me a break. anyone can play in the game, as long as they are good enuff. i aint heard none of his "dubstep" but his "breaks" is fuckin awesome. i think you'll find he would've influenced a fair few of your heros now my man...boomnoise wrote:i didn't say this was a bad thing. just that i'm skeptikal about his productions before hearing them. him playing it, i have no problem with.Spaceboy wrote:no one minded when tayo who is one of the uk breaks originators started playing dubstep.boomnoise wrote:i knew freq had been spinning it but never knew he was producing. i'd be very very skeptikal about this. but i'll reserve judgement until i hear some.
but personally i think the last thing we need us breaks guys jumping on it as well.
i think freq nasty is one of the better breaks producers out there, by a mile in fact. his album of 2 or 3 years ago now was and still is fuckin ruffntuff.
plus he'll bring to dubstep new listeners / crowds...and u know say breaks has a big fuckin audience across the world.
my worries are that becuase breaks is stagnating creatively, lots of producers, who i don't rate as producers, will jump on the good ship dubstep. i know freq is a good producer with an amazing profile but that doesn't mean his dubstep records will be any good.
Freq nasty making dubstep??
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come on man he wasnt exactly saying he wasnt allowed in or drumming up support for a boycott! he was just expressing personal concern... no? seems like a bit of a ridiculous response.Spaceboy wrote:boomnoise wrote:Spaceboy wrote:what you some keeper to the dubstep gates? give me a break. anyone can play in the game, as long as they are good enuff. i aint heard none of his "dubstep" but his "breaks" is fuckin awesome. i think you'll find he would've influenced a fair few of your heros now my man...boomnoise wrote:i didn't say this was a bad thing. just that i'm skeptikal about his productions before hearing them. him playing it, i have no problem with.
my worries are that becuase breaks is stagnating creatively, lots of producers, who i don't rate as producers, will jump on the good ship dubstep. i know freq is a good producer with an amazing profile but that doesn't mean his dubstep records will be any good.
for the sake of beef i dont think his breaks are that good, and i would be very very suprised if he has had any influence on 'my heroes'. at best his tunes (that ive heard) were teched up but standardised garage-breaks, other than like one or two tunes which had a bit of dancehall influence and were a bit more exciting... am i just not clued up?
i completely agree with the dude that said it would be great if plaid made their tracks a bit more dancey. and to the dude that said "dubstep is a state of mind" or whatever the fuck he said, while writing music, the results are dependant upon your state of mind, the output is related to the input, if these dudes are in the "dubstep" state of mind, thats what comes out.
but i also agree with the dude that said play tech itch on the flip
havent really been diggin too much of the (originally) DNB guys stuff at all 
but i also agree with the dude that said play tech itch on the flip
havent really been diggin too much of the (originally) DNB guys stuff at all -word up ,part of why it is growing so fast out here is that good producers that were doing other things for years got into it, so the beginning level is of a really high standard, we have guys out here in SF who make Breaks, Drum and Bass, purist Junglists, Electro, IDM, even some trancers already and much more all getting into dubs and producing it at a very high level. If top notch producers like Freq, Si Begg etc are doing dubs, then I say it's just a bit of a note for everyone currently doing it to up their game, bring up the standard of production for the whole genre.Shonky wrote:Why do we assume that someone from outside the "scene" that makes a tune that might actually be good, is instantly going to be rubbish in comparison to someone from within same scene who might churn out something pretty similar to what they churned out beforehand. If it's got imagination and soul, does this really matter?
Who is anyone to say Dubstep belongs here and here only and only if you get the nod from mr x in the corner
That's like saying if you have been into electronic music for more than 6 years then you're out as far as dubstep is concerned.
This genre fucking rules 'cos of it's diversity, dub is all encompassing when it comes to dance music, the roots of a lot of techno is dub, heck anyone heard of a polyrhythm?
my concern is general, but i will use freq nasty as an example (having not heard his tunes): my concern is that he would start a "dubstep" tune with half time drums and filter cutoff lfo bassline and just make the same kind of sound that so many people are making already, rather than starting from his breaks background and trying to go somewhere new.
my concern is about formulaic dubstep tunes and bigname producers increasing the number of these tunes and thusly, because of their existing audience, increasing the popular conception (in and out of the scene) that dubstep is a formula.
my concern is about formulaic dubstep tunes and bigname producers increasing the number of these tunes and thusly, because of their existing audience, increasing the popular conception (in and out of the scene) that dubstep is a formula.
I kind of agree with your point, but isn't the answer to that to support (verbally around these parts and with your feet and your wallet in meatspace) varied, creative, non-formulaic dubstep and the DJs who play it, rather than worrying about who is and who is not making it?pompende wrote:my concern is general, but i will use freq nasty as an example (having not heard his tunes): my concern is that he would start a "dubstep" tune with half time drums and filter cutoff lfo bassline and just make the same kind of sound that so many people are making already, rather than starting from his breaks background and trying to go somewhere new.
my concern is about formulaic dubstep tunes and bigname producers increasing the number of these tunes and thusly, because of their existing audience, increasing the popular conception (in and out of the scene) that dubstep is a formula.
That's the one. If he does it well, what does it matter? If say a player from another scene made a good dubstep record that's a GOOD THING. If you don't buy it because they weren't there from the beginning, do other music, etc, then that's your loss and it's got nothing to do with the music. The only thing that really matters is that its a good tune.Slothrop wrote:I kind of agree with your point, but isn't the answer to that to support (verbally around these parts and with your feet and your wallet in meatspace) varied, creative, non-formulaic dubstep and the DJs who play it, rather than worrying about who is and who is not making it?pompende wrote:my concern is general, but i will use freq nasty as an example (having not heard his tunes): my concern is that he would start a "dubstep" tune with half time drums and filter cutoff lfo bassline and just make the same kind of sound that so many people are making already, rather than starting from his breaks background and trying to go somewhere new.
my concern is about formulaic dubstep tunes and bigname producers increasing the number of these tunes and thusly, because of their existing audience, increasing the popular conception (in and out of the scene) that dubstep is a formula.
I think that the point that dubstep started getting recognition is the point where most people moved over to this music, and for a lot of people that's the blueprint to the sound, which is why more formulaic tracks start coming out around that blueprint. We need a few more tunes that operate outside of that formula to keep the sound open to new ideas.
Hmm....
yeh id be interested in hearing some freqNasty dubstep, a few years back i would often hear bits and pieces of that prog breaks sound on timmy schumacher's radio show, freq, deekline, tripod(?) or something , when first hearing those sort of breaks, some garage and a healthy diet of d&b, the genres didnt really seem that far apart to a punter like myself.. (also got into the big beats before any of that, lionrock still gets a play round mine) in saying that i went to see an aquasky dj set and was a bit dissapointed at the amount of cheesy break content, 
esp. since theyve had some mean tunes come out 
, when first hearing those sort of breaks, some garage and a healthy diet of d&b, the genres didnt really seem that far apart to a punter like myself.. (also got into the big beats before any of that, lionrock still gets a play round mine) in saying that i went to see an aquasky dj set and was a bit dissapointed at the amount of cheesy break content, esp. since theyve had some mean tunes come out -
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