is anybody else sick of banger after banger after banger?

blae-lue · Post by **blae-lue** » Tue May 05, 2009 1:42 am

It's just like the person above me who talked about it being like eating sweets all the time. It may be cool for right then, but eventually you're going to get sick.

I for one got into step after hear that wobble.
shit like emalkay-mecha, and i was trying to find all the hardest hitting shit
I diddn't even like any of the dubby stuff or subtle shit. but now i get and want to hear more
:? getting a little tired of the wobble that has no fucking back bone
nothing to grab onto other the gut shredding bass, which is great at times

but, if i were producing i would want to make the shredders. but would end up with some dubby, telfon tel aviv, wu tang, ratatat stuff

so make agressive/wobble/15 a daystep and make deep/dark/subtle step and make the techy/break/boxcutter/vex'd step shit
i'll listen to it all and if i like, i like it and if not then great, get it the fuck away and i might like some other day.

.spec · Post by **.spec** » Tue May 05, 2009 2:01 am

blae-lue wrote: I for one got into step after hear that wobble.
shit like emalkay-mecha, and i was trying to find all the hardest hitting shit
I diddn't even like any of the dubby stuff or subtle shit. but now i get and want to hear more
getting a little tired of the wobble that has no fucking back bone
nothing to grab onto other the gut shredding bass, which is great at times

It's good to hear another Washington head posting that. Seriously.

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Tue May 05, 2009 2:16 am

It it official. Dubstep had turned into DNB

blae-lue · Post by **blae-lue** » Tue May 05, 2009 2:17 am

Oly heads outta hand

cosmic revenge · Post by **cosmic revenge** » Tue May 05, 2009 2:30 am

its just like any other genre of music: there are good artist pushing unique and fresh sounds, and there are artists pushing stale, trendy, bandwagon sounds. i just like dubstep in general because of the fact that even though it may not seem like it to some, to me there are so many fresh sounds coming from producers right now. its easy to look at the negative, but for fucks sake lets look at the positive. i mean just look at producers like 2562, ramadanman, F, jus wan, joker, appleblim, pinch, vvv, kito. that is only such a small scratch of the surface of dope producers. time will tell which producers will be remembered, as with any genre. my personal opinion is that mid range/wobble will become so played out that its novelty will wear thin, while other sounds and unique producers will be remembered and influence a new generation of people and so on

paradise · Post by **paradise** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:44 am

Banger-after-banger sets I think are encouraged by two things:

1) Most clubs having poor systems with little to no bass. In these cases you really have to choose your tunes carefully, ones with heavy reliance on bass and minimal mids sound empty. Lots of tunes by Mala, Quest, Ramadanman, F, etc are just unplayable on such systems as they lose the bass/sub bass which give them their depth. Bangers, whilst using bass, also tend to have more mids, so playing them on poor systems isn't so bad.

2) More people getting into dubstep nights who don't care so much about the music itself but just want to be able to brock out/go crazy/get pissed etc. Bangers serve this purpose well.

Personally I hate banger sets, and you can easily play non-aggressive good sets which get people moving on less-than-great systems if you choose your tunes well. There's a danger that promoters etc. come to see dubstep as just being 'bangers', and book accordingly

What is the solution?

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:47 am

as long as you bangher hard enough i dont see the problem...

gkmusic · Post by **gkmusic** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:07 am

Paradise wrote:Banger-after-banger sets I think are encouraged by two things:

2) More people getting into dubstep nights who don't care so much about the music itself but just want to be able to brock out/go crazy/get pissed etc. Bangers serve this purpose well.

Personally I hate banger sets, and you can easily play non-aggressive good sets which get people moving on less-than-great systems if you choose your tunes well. There's a danger that promoters etc. come to see dubstep as just being 'bangers', and book accordingly

What is the solution?

I think it's completely up to the DJ's to be honest. FWD and DMZ nights are the best purely because of the wide range of shit you're gonna hear that night, These days when you go herbal or rhythm factory etc half the time the place is jam packed with hipster kids who've jumped on the whole dubstep thing just cos it's the "in" thing right now. For that reason DJ's play their banger sets (and lets not fuck about, it's mainly wobbles)
so the crowd get hype and therefore giving the promoters more reason to keep booking them.

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:37 pm

Reverend Dale wrote:
TEST RECORDINGS wrote:I wouldn't mind if they were better produced! Quality has got WORSE in past two years, too much has got a 8-16bit edge on it and it sounds crap

you see, I hate music that is so highly produced and polished you can see your face in it. I love the old DAT recordings where you can hear the imperfections of analogue recording - 'Great Gig in the Sky' springs to mind. The last piano not contorts because of dodgy recording gear and tapes in the seventies, it's sublime, you can't add magic like that - it just happens by chance and these days it would be removed.

I'm talking about digital being bad, analogue is as better as much as the universe is real, digital just can't cut it compared because it's trying to recreate an event that's been effectively pixellised

Dark Reign · Post by **Dark Reign** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:07 pm

More bangers please

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:20 pm

mattron wrote:what the fuck is wrong with banger after banger as long as they're good?

losing the contrast - a big tune doesn't seem so big after 10 other ones. Build a set comprising of different kinds of tune, with peaks & troughs, and your big tunes will have IMPACT.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:44 pm

It is what it is... I think there's still loads of good dubstep being made but overall it just seems that something's been lost since I first got into it. A lot of the people I know off here who were into it in 2005/6 seem to be playing and listening to other things (funky, 'wonky', house...) now, and I can sympathise with that.

Its inevitable really that music changes and if you got into it at one stage ages ago for a number of reasons you're obviously not going to be pleased when the music goes in completely a different direction, while others who have got into it more recently are going to absolutely love it in its current form. Also, when you've been into it for a few years the new stuff loses its freshness in comparison to what you've already heard - no doubt there are tunes coming out now that I'd have absolutely loved in 2006, but by now I'm comparing everything to I RMX, Haunted, Lean FWD...

I think the music is still evolving in interesting ways and ultimately, while I think dubstep is here to stay, the most interesting/heavy stuff might very well emerge from new scenes and forms over the next few years.

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:35 pm

Corpsey wrote:It is what it is... I think there's still loads of good dubstep being made but overall it just seems that something's been lost since I first got into it. A lot of the people I know off here who were into it in 2005/6 seem to be playing and listening to other things (funky, 'wonky', house...) now, and I can sympathise with that.

Its inevitable really that music changes and if you got into it at one stage ages ago for a number of reasons you're obviously not going to be pleased when the music goes in completely a different direction, while others who have got into it more recently are going to absolutely love it in its current form. Also, when you've been into it for a few years the new stuff loses its freshness in comparison to what you've already heard - no doubt there are tunes coming out now that I'd have absolutely loved in 2006, but by now I'm comparing everything to I RMX, Haunted, Lean FWD...

I think the music is still evolving in interesting ways and ultimately, while I think dubstep is here to stay, the most interesting/heavy stuff might very well emerge from new scenes and forms over the next few years.

Oh fuck off corpsey, I saw you as the last post and was expecting hilarity, not a thorough and well thought out assessment of the scene. You disappoint.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:38 pm

You see? Even Corpsey is shit nowadays.

mattrelton · Post by **mattrelton** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:06 pm

vaski · Post by **vaski** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:45 pm

mattrelton wrote:No.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:49 pm

abZ wrote:It it official. Dubstep had turned into DNB

no dsf has just turned into doa jr

alcane · Post by **alcane** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:15 pm

Examiow wrote:Ive been listening to early dubstep tracks all day, and don't you just miss it? I mean there are some amazing producers doing amazing things at the mo, but its all the same old wobbles getting the recognition?

I feel the same about most D&B these days!

A lot of dubstep, if speeded up would essentially be shitty clownstep

capo ultra · Post by **capo ultra** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:22 pm

wobble is wack

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