dubstep has gotten better, if anything.

q23 · Post by **q23** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:28 pm

People speaking about 4 years ago like it was "back in the day" is quite entertaining. - Like the dinosaurs roamed the earth in 2005.

I remember when these same arguements were had by fans of Acid House (why is everyone with a tb303 now a credible producer??), then Drum and Bass went down this road as well. (...was sooo much better before timestretch vocals were in EVERY track omg!!!)

15 years from now all this will get lumped into the same era, and new heads will not be able to distinguish the time before the "midrange cack" hit the scene, ruined it for everyone, and now you've moved on to this evil speed carnival step all the kids are listening to. (sorry, had to throw that one in there heh)

abs · Post by **abs** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:33 pm

let them get on with it, it makes them feel more O.G if they can remember the scene from all the way back in.. 2004

fairieswearboots · Post by **fairieswearboots** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:38 pm

4 years is a long time in the evolution of dubstep -

where do you want to go back in the day to?

(i have been to raves since '91, i am old

)

mcc_idubkilla · Post by **mcc_idubkilla** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:08 pm

SILKIE wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSNbOBoUP8
listen to the message in this song!!!

Silkie smacked it with that comment
couldnt agree more geezer !
and tell me when "test" is coming out
i need it
BIG UP GLADYS KNIGHT AND THE PIPS
beautiful music right there

datura · Post by **datura** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:18 pm

SILKIE wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSNbOBoUP8
listen to the message in this song!!!

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C99iG4HoO1c

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:31 pm

nahhhhhhhhh, listen to this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmhP6n_uC8

I understand music changes, 2005 will always be my totez favez tho, and I will always enjoy blathering on to little kids about how everything they believe in is a heap of Tweeny toss filth. It's the circle of life, except when I'm blathering on to people who are decades older than me about exactly the same thing, in which case it becomes the hexagon of living death.

Production levels... Fair enough if you're into that, personally I think I preferred the rawer stuff. But it's not as if funky doesn't exist lol

ghosttown · Post by **ghosttown** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:34 pm

beatlejuice wrote:oh fuck off with the mythical legend of croydon's big apple. Thats just hatcha and blackdown creating a sth london legacy while trying to cement themselves as architects...

...how long you been into this shit for ???

not you again, you get about... got nothing better to do apart from stiring shit... mug!

ratdeal · Post by **ratdeal** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:01 pm

in 4/5 years peeps are gonna be going on about how "2008 was the year dubstep became a global phenomenon. without that year dubstep wouldnt be where it is today"

then DSF becomes self aware and launches a global thermo-nuclear attack and the vinyl pressing plants go into overdrive. churning out hunter-killer vinyls destined to infiltrate raves and ........

sorry. terminators out soon innit!!!

which leads me to my next point. please lets not have a 12berjillion and one terminator inspired tracks in the coming weeks and months. its far to bait!!!!

soundbwoy · Post by **soundbwoy** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:26 pm

dubstep

ratdeal wrote: its far to bait!!!!

also

beatlejuice wrote:...this is the interweb and a discussion forum. without healthy debate and at the risk of being called a hater or troll with contrasting opinions it's all eatarse fanboy shit

mainly
I think the rise of digital is having an impact on what was a vinyl scene. No way am I anti-digital, I play CDJs, and there are berr good digi only labels

BUT

u dun no

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:39 pm

Corpsey wrote:I understand music changes, 2005 will always be my totez favez tho, and I will always enjoy blathering on to little kids about how everything they believe in is a heap of Tweeny toss filth. It's the circle of life, except when I'm blathering on to people who are decades older than me about exactly the same thing, in which case it becomes the hexagon of living death.

Things like this are why we keep you around, you old bastard.

djfurness · Post by **djfurness** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:43 pm

Q23 wrote:People speaking about 4 years ago like it was "back in the day" is quite entertaining. - Like the dinosaurs roamed the earth in 2005.

I remember when these same arguements were had by fans of Acid House (why is everyone with a tb303 now a credible producer??), then Drum and Bass went down this road as well. (...was sooo much better before timestretch vocals were in EVERY track omg!!!)

15 years from now all this will get lumped into the same era, and new heads will not be able to distinguish the time before the "midrange cack" hit the scene, ruined it for everyone, and now you've moved on to this evil speed carnival step all the kids are listening to. (sorry, had to throw that one in there heh)

Comin from someone who joined up last month

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:44 pm

i think if you dont totally love a minimum of 20 new tracks each month of 2009, digi and vinyl, you fell out of genre´s evolution rocket and you`ll die sad but maybe not lonely orbiting around your memories
also if you can´t hear the overall evolution in sound quality, then you can´t hear imo.
of course there´s more crap too, the proportions stay approx. the same, but since whole pool is much larger, the cool tracks pool is also much larger, thats the only win you can expect and more than enough to make reasonable people happy.
so you can´t complain unless you are easily confused when seeking for quality among 200 releases instead of 20

caunterstrike · Post by **caunterstrike** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:55 pm

djfurness wrote:
Q23 wrote:People speaking about 4 years ago like it was "back in the day" is quite entertaining. - Like the dinosaurs roamed the earth in 2005.

I remember when these same arguements were had by fans of Acid House (why is everyone with a tb303 now a credible producer??), then Drum and Bass went down this road as well. (...was sooo much better before timestretch vocals were in EVERY track omg!!!)

15 years from now all this will get lumped into the same era, and new heads will not be able to distinguish the time before the "midrange cack" hit the scene, ruined it for everyone, and now you've moved on to this evil speed carnival step all the kids are listening to. (sorry, had to throw that one in there heh)
Comin from someone who joined up last month

yeah you tell him. how long you have been a member of this forum is a really good measure of how credible your arguement is.

jokes aside dubstep has definately changed for the better. anyone else think nine samurai is shit?

q23 · Post by **q23** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:03 pm

If by "joined up" you mean "finally created an account for a forum I have been browsing for a few years, then yeah, I just joined up.

I used to watch phat pants wearing, stuffed animal back pack having, pacifier sucking, vics vapo rub stankin kids have these same music based debates in a chill out room at big parties, regarding their sub sub sub sub genre of music they preferred. Its just funny its on the www now.

I do believe dubstep is better due to being more diverse, and not just conforming to what 10 people think the genre should be.

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:03 pm

caunter wrote:anyone else think nine samurai is shit?

Ban.
Chase out of town with pitchforks.
Catch.
Hurt with pitchforks.
Eject into space.
...ban again

edit: Oh and I spose I may aswell join in. For me dubstep was alooot more exciting a few years ago, but I think it was more due to the novelty of it for me and not necessarily quality of tunes. Theres SICK stuff constantly coming out (if you dont think theres enough quality tunes coming out at the moment, youve got a bigger vinyl budget than me

this shits hurting) and im sure if I had more recently gotten into the whole thing, I would be just as super stoked as I was way back when.

Alot of people I know who we all started getting into dubstep at the same time have all started to kind of move away from it. Im beginning to find myself doing the same too, but yeah, I think its more to do with...I dunno...human attention spans or something than it is quality of tunes!

That said, would someone please test the early dmz releases?

Like...mother fudge me

djfurness · Post by **djfurness** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:08 pm

caunter wrote:
djfurness wrote:
Q23 wrote:People speaking about 4 years ago like it was "back in the day" is quite entertaining. - Like the dinosaurs roamed the earth in 2005.

I remember when these same arguements were had by fans of Acid House (why is everyone with a tb303 now a credible producer??), then Drum and Bass went down this road as well. (...was sooo much better before timestretch vocals were in EVERY track omg!!!)

15 years from now all this will get lumped into the same era, and new heads will not be able to distinguish the time before the "midrange cack" hit the scene, ruined it for everyone, and now you've moved on to this evil speed carnival step all the kids are listening to. (sorry, had to throw that one in there heh)
Comin from someone who joined up last month
yeah you tell him. how long you have been a member of this forum is a really good measure of how credible your arguement is.

jokes aside dubstep has definately changed for the better. anyone else think nine samurai is shit?

Guys entitled to his views just as much as anyone, being a forum member longer is definitley not a sign of superiority, just thought someone who has been a member a month going on about 4 years ago not being a long time was funny. 4 years is a long time, especially in these Internet times we live in, the speed at which Dubstep has evolved is scary sometimes, IN MY OPINION its taken Dubstep 4/5 years to get to a level of popularity (especially worldwide) it took Drum n Bass 10 years to get to, and its mainly down to the net.
I didnt say there werent as many good tunes now as well, as I pointed out because im not swayed and stick to one side of the music (wobble/deep etc) like a lot of people on this forum seem to be I can find lots to enjoy whether its an aggressive Coki bit or a lush as fuck Ramadanman piece, I was merely pointing out that those tunes back in 04/05/06 were better because they were new, fresh, exciting, it was indeed a golden era, and the influx of all the new producers we have seen in the past couple of years and the ever growing popularity of the music is down to those seminal exciting moments that we had back then that drew people into the music, so for people to be moaning about people who appreciate that period more than them is ridiculous, I will always find tunes that will excite me, but never as much as back in those days, its like saying DnB/Jungle can still be as exciting as when Splash - Babylon etc were about, you can never replicate that shit, but the music evolves and Drum n Bass/Jungle still continues to have great new moments just like Dubstep will continue to, but nothin can match the early days, you can pretty much apply this to any genre really

djfurness · Post by **djfurness** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:09 pm

Q23 wrote:I do believe dubstep is better due to being more diverse, and not just conforming to what 10 people think the genre should be.

I couldnt agree more

caunterstrike · Post by **caunterstrike** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:19 pm

The Wiggle Baron wrote:
caunter wrote:anyone else think nine samurai is shit?
Ban.
Chase out of town with pitchforks.
Catch.
Hurt with pitchforks.
Eject into space.
...ban again

you like nine samurai then?

the wiggle baron · Post by **the wiggle baron** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:21 pm

caunter wrote:
The Wiggle Baron wrote:
caunter wrote:anyone else think nine samurai is shit?
Ban.
Chase out of town with pitchforks.
Catch.
Hurt with pitchforks.
Eject into space.
...ban again

you like nine samurai then?

im partial to it

DUUUN DUN DUN DA DUUUUUUUUUUN DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN DA DADUUUUUNNNNNN
DUN DUN DUN DA DAAAAAAAAAAAAN DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUN DA DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
FACE MELT/SHIT ABOUT CHURCHES

edit: It appears that today im all about lists.

dj vk - snakebite ent. · Post by **dj vk - snakebite ent.** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:46 pm

This forum is a joke. Not the scene. This forum.

Shit like this fucked up UK Garage.

dubstep has gotten better, if anything.

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