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Post by resolved » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:18 am

and whoever said Hawtin 'props up' Villalobos -- total sourface. reason why you have to love Ricardo is because you know he's going to play fucking Digital Mystikz in the middle of a minimal set... dude just goes with the flow. which means he can crash horribly, but he can also provide the most incredible moments of musical epipahny (honest).

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Post by dub boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:27 am

I saw Villalobos at Sonar this year and he was fuckin' SHITE

It was all about modeselektor who were ACE

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Post by elgato » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:32 am

seems a bit of an odd comparison, theyre quite a long way apart...

it makes sense that you would like modeselektor, given how much dancehall, hip-hop and grime are evidently influencing their sound, but villalobos is a completely different kettle of fish

i guess i just dont like it being framed as a matter of objectivity

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Post by dub boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:48 am

@ Elgato

Yep bit of an odd comparison agreed, but I was thinking back to Sonar... highlights, lowpoints etc, and that's what sprung to my mind.

Villalobos was a particular lowpoint... my techno mate dragged me along promising me it would be great, it really really wasn't.

Modeselektor however sprung into my mind as I remembered them being a real treat!!

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Post by elgato » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:52 am

i know what you mean

i guess my issue (albeit a bit anal) is with this kind of language:
Dub boy wrote:it really really wasn't.
in that you really really didnt enjoy it, but thats not to say that it was objectively bad

if you know what i mean

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Post by resolved » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:25 am

Sonar By Night isn't the best environment to see him in anyway... way better atmosphere for something like Modeselektor than anything you're meant to get 'lost' in

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Post by TRG » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:28 am

Ricardo can be funky
Ricardo can be shit
He sometimes plays dubstep
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Post by dub boy » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:34 am

Obviously my comments are my opinions chaps :wink:

Just cos i thought he was shite doesn't mean he IS shite, so to speak. I found him extremely dull... it was him and Hawtin b2b If memory serves. As far as I was concerned it was deadly boring.

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Post by cozagada » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:39 am

Dub boy wrote:Obviously my comments are my opinions chaps :wink:

Just cos i thought he was shite doesn't mean he IS shite, so to speak. I found him extremely dull... it was him and Hawtin b2b If memory serves. As far as I was concerned it was deadly boring.
i can understand, even if i love dickardo.
i've seen him a couple of times, sometimes he plays a fucking mind-blowing set, sometimes he's plain boring. maybe with fucked-up geniuses you just have to be lucky

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Post by jackquinox » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:10 am

resolved wrote:and whoever said Hawtin 'props up' Villalobos -- total sourface. reason why you have to love Ricardo is because you know he's going to play fucking Digital Mystikz in the middle of a minimal set... dude just goes with the flow. which means he can crash horribly, but he can also provide the most incredible moments of musical epipahny (honest).
Yeah i dont think im being a sour face i think anyone thats paid as much as villalobos is paid to do a DJ set and makes terrible mistakes in several of the back to back sets i have seen him do with hawtin is letting the team down dont you?

On a completely different note just cause a dj plays a track by the digital mystikz in my mind doesnt make them a good dj if the other 60% of what they play is boring as dutch toast with spam.

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Post by resolved » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:55 am

dunno, when I've seen him b2b w/ Hawtin, Richie was the dull one. pure knob twiddling techno. probably varies from gig to gig, I think when they're really 'on' you're not able to tell who's selecting what. they're probably only really with it when they have a long, long time to settle into the groove, i.e. not a festival headlining slot.

also, compared to practically ever other minimal techno DJ (especially Hawtin!), I don't think you can call the majority of what he plays dull. he takes a lot of risks selection-wise and covers a wide selection of styles. sometimes he does get locked into tedium, but eh... the unpredictability is endearing (it has nothing to do with the specific selection of DMZ!)

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Post by david_m » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:48 pm

Let's hope he'll drop some Plastician beats on one of those back 2 backs he does with Hawtin :lol:

By the way, maybe some of his production is ok, but his dj sets are completely boring for me, maybe I became saturated because where I live everybody likes minimal techno, and you can't go anywhere without listening to the same tunes over and over. But, for me, most of the Minus/Kompakt/Trapez/etc. stuff since two years or so is really redundant. Also, most of these people act like rockstars, which makes me want to forget them.

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Looks interesting - unfortunately Sendspace seems to keep telling me that I've exceeded my download limit before I've downloaded anything. 1gb - bollox :evil:
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