should muslims wher the vale?

razer-wire · Post by **razer-wire** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:33 pm

should theay or shouldnt theay
i say yes

poax · Post by **poax** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:20 pm

how do you spell mine field?

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:23 pm

poax wrote:how do you spell mine field?

minefield

close bruv

im more concerned about the backlash on the ninjas, theyve suffered enough leave the poor ninja's alone

personally i think anyone can wear what the fuck they like i dont care

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:29 pm

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:39 pm

deamonds wrote:i couldnt give a fucking shit what they wear, bearing in mind that i wont speak 2 a peice of cloth.

U WANT 2 FEEL LIKE A FUCKING OUTCAST, KEEP WEARING THE FUCKING THING, U LOOK LIKE A FUCKING POSTBOX ANYWAY!!

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:39 pm

It's not actually a part of the Qu'ran as far as I'm aware, there's just a requirement to dress modestly.

If it's their choice fine, if it's the husbands or local mosque's then that's a different matter.

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:53 pm

razer-wire wrote:should theay or shouldnt theay
i say yes

man for a twelve yr old you don't half bring some contentious shit to the table. surely it ain't upto heads on a music forum to decide whats right or wrong, esp not concerning religous dress codes

leave that to politicians, they're better qualified fo these things

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:55 pm

narcossist wrote:
razer-wire wrote:should theay or shouldnt theay
i say yes
man for a twelve yr old you don't half bring some contentious shit to the table. surely it ain't upto heads on a music forum to decide whats right or wrong, esp not concerning religous dress codes

leave that to politicians, they're better qualified fo these things

The viel is what FWD's new dress code is...

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:02 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 079798.stm
anti religious comments is clearly the way forward.

do you remember what happened to a certain danish newspaper editor when he posted a comic drawing of prophet mohammed? 5 danish embassies were nearly burned to the ground. a full on riot in pakistan. riots in denmark and truckloads of danish products being burned on the street.

we live in extreme times. the only way forward is tolerance, and acceptance.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:28 pm

Mr Hyde wrote:
seckle wrote:anti religious comments is clearly the way forward.

do you remember what happened to a certain danish newspaper editor when he posted a comic drawing of prophet mohammed? 5 danish embassies were nearly burned to the ground. a full on riot in pakistan. riots in denmark.

we live in extreme times. the only way forward is tolerance, and acceptance.
yeah but most other religions dont really care if you take the piss out of them, tolerance goes both ways

islam is a religion of absolutes. there's no grey area in interpretating the koran. you can't be a weekend muslim. either you're muslim or your not. hence these kind of situations arise, where one group is reacting to something they don't understand about another group's faith.

the bible has been interpreted and re-interpreted several times. it's an adaptable religion and is ever changing. this has created a culture of adaptability. you can still be a weekend catholic in the eyes of the community and the church.

globally:

1billion believers of islam
2billion believers of christianity

what's the logical solution? tolerance.

jack sparrow1 · Post by **jack sparrow1** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:34 pm

narcossist wrote:
razer-wire wrote:should theay or shouldnt theay
i say yes
man for a twelve yr old you don't half bring some contentious shit to the table. surely it ain't upto heads on a music forum to decide whats right or wrong, esp not concerning religous dress codes

leave that to politicians, they're better qualified fo these things

well said that man a true mediator

personally i think yashmacks shouldnt be banned but if you could get them updated to the 20th century that would be cool like football ones and diff colors and patterns

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:36 pm

youtube is amazing on topics like this. this is spot on imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlQA4gGDrXA

rickyricardo · Post by **rickyricardo** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:44 pm

imposing your standards on someone else's culture just smells of arrogance.

respect and tolerance is the message

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:57 pm

RickyRicardo wrote:imposing your standards on someone else's culture just smells of arrogance.

respect and tolerance is the message

Although as a liberal myself (mostly) how do you justify being tolerant of intolerant folks? Not saying all muslims are intolerant, but there's a great deal of their beliefs (and Christians' beliefs) that aren't quite in the spirit of goodwill to all people of the world. Might be just the spin given to it by religious leaders though, as I'm not sure the books had this malevolence within.

My brother lives up in Leicester where there's a large muslimi population and he says that there's more niqabs being worn than ever before. I think Islam's the new punk in that way - you hate us, fuck you, we'll go further in that direction. Thing is in terms of things like foreign policy, I find myself in complete agreement with them to a point, I just find the whole religious thing rather bemusing after all these years of reason.

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:20 pm

I totally agree it's a matter of choice. No-one should be prescribing how someone else dresses, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else blah blah blah.
So - veils should be allowed. Veils with attached telescopic spikes / laser beams might be considered harmful to others and frowned upon.

As a great man once said - 'Death to fanatics!'

(That's a joke by the way, the greatest tragedy would be if we allow these contentious issues to destroy the inaliable right to dumb humour.)

bagelator · Post by **bagelator** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:23 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
I once saw Russ Abbot on Blackpool prom. He was buying a hotdog. I was on lsd .

russ abbot used to live in our village. i wasn't old enough to buy drugs.

and re: the thread is this about muslims in port vale?

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:28 pm

Russ Abbot once came into a shop I was working in. He was in the middle of a hair transplant and looked like Pinhead from Hellraiser. I was not on LSD.

"Pain and fear, I love a party with some heavy pain and fear..."

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