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sideband harmonics and...
Well how to bring them out to achieve a fuller sound in the mastering process. Maybe this has been discussed and I have looked and looked for information and failed to find anything.
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
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Sorry, sideband harmonics?
Are you FM'ing your whole tune?
EDIT: sorry What do you mean?
Are you FM'ing your whole tune?
EDIT: sorry What do you mean?
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Macc wrote:Sorry, sideband harmonics?
Are you FM'ing your whole tune?
EDIT: sorry What do you mean?
i dont know if you know shawn hatfield, he goes by TWERK, very prominent master engineer, when talking to him about what his approach to mastering some music he commented on increasing sideband harmonics, I had no idea what he was talking about.
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LFO > amplitude3za wrote:im going to try that any one know any thing that can do this .Are you FM'ing your whole tune?
set it bloody fast, ie approaching/equal to audible frequency values and revel in the madness
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Twerk rings a bell.collective wrote: i dont know if you know shawn hatfield, he goes by TWERK, very prominent master engineer, when talking to him about what his approach to mastering some music he commented on increasing sideband harmonics, I had no idea what he was talking about.
Did he mean harmonics in the side channel perhaps?
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Do it at, say, 1kHz.3za wrote:i dont get that. lfo to amplitude sounds like a trance gateLFO > amplitude
set it bloody fast, ie approaching/equal to audible frequency values and revel in the madness
That's some seriously fast trance
What happens when modulating audio that fast is that you get sidebands, that is, the audio 'breaks into' mathematically related components called sidebands.
Although actually I am not concentrating and that is amplitude modulation (AM) not frequency modulation (FM), sorry Same principle though, even if the maths and sonic implications are somewhat different.
Sorry for the mistake
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Macc wrote:Twerk rings a bell.collective wrote: i dont know if you know shawn hatfield, he goes by TWERK, very prominent master engineer, when talking to him about what his approach to mastering some music he commented on increasing sideband harmonics, I had no idea what he was talking about.
Did he mean harmonics in the side channel perhaps?
possibly... but i remember him saying "increasing sideband harmonics"... is how he had put it.
so is he just talking about soft saturation of some sort? I'd like to read about the science behind whatever he is talking about.
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Well, I don't know what he's talking about unless he meant side channel. Sideband harmonics sounds more like radio transmitter talk to me (see above).collective wrote: possibly... but i remember him saying "increasing sideband harmonics"... is how he had put it.
*Subtly* distorting the side/S/difference/L-R (same thing) channel can be useful in making things appear wider, yes. Not much more to it than that, though be careful with it or you dislocate the M and S components completely. Less is more etc.so is he just talking about soft saturation of some sort? I'd like to read about the science behind whatever he is talking about.
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BTW sorry being so terribly terribly pedantic
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yeah thats AM. im going to try using a super fast lfo to amp that might sound cool. i going to start a new thread on this as i have derailed this one enoght now.Macc wrote:Do it at, say, 1kHz.3za wrote:i dont get that. lfo to amplitude sounds like a trance gateLFO > amplitude
set it bloody fast, ie approaching/equal to audible frequency values and revel in the madness
That's some seriously fast trance
What happens when modulating audio that fast is that you get sidebands, that is, the audio 'breaks into' mathematically related components called sidebands.
Although actually I am not concentrating and that is amplitude modulation (AM) not frequency modulation (FM), sorry Same principle though, even if the maths and sonic implications are somewhat different.
Sorry for the mistake
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