Banksy in secret exhibition stunt

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:36 pm

DJelements wrote:
The_Dza88 wrote: People who dont write dont understand what so ever
I fucking know!

if the rules of writing are different from the rules of nice artwork, why bother comparing then?
and why moan not being understood

anyway, there's nice stuff out there, but not that one posted. by the rules i follow, of course...

reverend dale · Post by **reverend dale** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Am not arsed if people like Banksy, I only get arsey when people think he's some kind of class warrior anarchist artistic genius.

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:42 pm

alien pimp wrote:
DJelements wrote:
The_Dza88 wrote: People who dont write dont understand what so ever
I fucking know!
if the rules of writing are different from the rules of nice artwork, why bother comparing then?
and why moan not being understood

anyway, there's nice stuff out there, but not that one posted. by the rules i follow, of course...

It was an example it was the best thing by far but id rather see something like which someone has taken there time with then some shit 2 minute stencil

alien pimp · Post by **alien pimp** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:47 pm

ah, ok, by my books you can make it in 5 secs with a brush in your ass, if you mange to make it beautiful you beat anything ugly made in a year of elaborations

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:48 pm

xarcane · Post by **xarcane** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:51 am

DJelements wrote:
Jolly Wailer wrote:nah you dont have to on account of me.

I see what you were saying. But I also see so much shit get written off as "pretentious" it makes me worry that we can't ever just enjoy something for what it is without trying to poke holes in the artists motivations..

I've always hated "I'm an artist." People ask me what I do, and I say "I draw stuff, and hopefully I'll be doing that for my job in the near future."

Now that's what I'd call pretentious. If someone creates and sells artwork for a living why shouldn't they be called an artist. You just sound like rebel without a cause being adverse just for the sake of it.

And I can't agree with all the dudes hating on Banksy. The guy is something greater than the sum total of his artwork. He represents the idea that you can keep pushing for what you believe in, not compromise your beliefs, and still succeed/survive in the society you're fighting against.

Plus he has done some outstanding pieces as well as more basic ones. The whole point of street art is that it both gives and leaves a fleeting impression, it's not a painstakingly drawn out piece of artwork. Who cares if some of his metaphors are obvious. At least they have meaning.

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:54 am

XArcane wrote:He represents the idea that you can keep pushing for what you believe in, not compromise your beliefs, and still succeed/survive in the society you're fighting against.

What exactly does Banksy believe in, in your opinion?

j-sh · Post by **j-sh** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:27 pm

Reverend Dale wrote:Am not arsed if people like Banksy, I only get arsey when people think he's some kind of class warrior anarchist artistic genius.

Agreed

-dubson- · Post by **-dubson-** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:43 pm

cant understand people hating on him tbh, his art is really good and interesting to look at, and yeah it has a deep message, it isn't the most profound one or whatever. But as has been said he was just doing his own thing and it took off.

But for a lot of people it will make them think, and if it has surely it has done its job?

diss04 · Post by **diss04** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:44 pm

DJelements wrote:
The_Dza88 wrote: People who dont write dont understand what so ever
I fucking know!

oh you write Elements?

post up some of your work, dawg

xarcane · Post by **xarcane** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:57 pm

pk- wrote:
XArcane wrote:He represents the idea that you can keep pushing for what you believe in, not compromise your beliefs, and still succeed/survive in the society you're fighting against.
What exactly does Banksy believe in, in your opinion?

The legitimacy of street art for one thing.

missedthebus · Post by **missedthebus** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:12 pm

XArcane wrote:The whole point of street art is that it both gives and leaves a fleeting impression, it's not a painstakingly drawn out piece of artwork. Who cares if some of his metaphors are obvious. At least they have meaning.

Agree.

Im gonna try and make it to this exhibition, I love graffiti/street art of all kinds, wild style to stencils. Bristol's had some sickheads like Banksy, Inky and Cheeba, big ups em all, and fair play to the man for being able to get his art shown in the Museum, a statement and a half however you want to interpret it.

__________ · Post by **__________** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:44 pm

PEOPLE ARE STUPID
THINGS NEED TO BE OBVIOUS
BANKSY IS CLEVER

maybe you're so intelligent and righteous that you don't need to pay attention to anything banksy is trying to bring to people's attention, but 99.9999% of the people in this country are absolutely stupid in my experience, and any political message more cryptic than banksy's usual output would go straight over their heads, rendering it absolutely pointless (like most graffiti)

banksy serves a purpose, and he serves it fucking well. he's in the mainstream now, don't forget that. ANYBODY in the mainstream spreading the message he's trying to spread can only be a good thing.

i think its ridiculous the way that banksy gets more negativity directed towards him than any of the shit that a lot of crap 'taggers' or 'writers' do around cities.
at least he's drawing pretty pictures with a message...not writing his shitty ghetto alias in 5-foot high letters on the wall of an elderly person's house.

haters: lighten the fuck up, or go do some of your own political graffiti which will get international news coverage and earn you millions of roubles...

the gallery thing looks crap though to be honest.

j-sh · Post by **j-sh** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:12 am

£10 Bag wrote:
the gallery thing looks crap though to be honest.

fucking hater....

lol i think we can all agree that banksy is good at making cool looking pieces that have simple but powerful messages - even though his persona is at best cheesy and at worst hypocritical. but at the end of that day its a message that needs to be spread even if its on the tailcoats of all the people who shell out £15 for his book

LEQ · Post by **LEQ** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:01 am

£10 fopp action. Go banksy.

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:18 pm

XArcane wrote:
pk- wrote:
XArcane wrote:He represents the idea that you can keep pushing for what you believe in, not compromise your beliefs, and still succeed/survive in the society you're fighting against.
What exactly does Banksy believe in, in your opinion?
The legitimacy of street art for one thing.

That'll be why he's putting on an exhibition in a museum then?

uncle bill · Post by **uncle bill** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:52 pm

J-sh wrote:lol clearly there's a thin line between not liking banksy and "being bitter stnuc who have never had a creative idea in their lives"

Yep. And Charlie Brooker has had plenty of creative ideas. He's not just a rent-a-gob. Nathan Barley and TVGoHome were funnier and more insightful than anything Banksy has done.

I think Bansky is technically skilled and has his own original style but he's just stating the bleedin' obvious most of the time. I'll go to the exhibition though because it's two miles from my house I'm sure some of it will be worth looking at.

I don't like people on this thread getting called "hater" for not rating Banksy though. Is there a party line against having a sceptical attitude?

Hater is a word used by those who want everyone to agree on everything because they're too thick to handle a variety of opinions.

magma · Post by **magma** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:03 pm

The_Dza88 wrote:
deamonds wrote:
TIME wrote:Banksy haters sit in the seat of jealousy.
this, people need to stop being different/difficult just cause they feel; they 'need' to

RMFE

Hold tight the failed artist's
Or the fact people think this is acceptable

But this isnt

The both forms of vandalism but people just let banksy stuff go over there heads and try and bring the real writers down

The difference in impact is fairly obvious, though. Lots of people associate (however subliminally) traditional Graf writing with unsafe streets, crime, gang activity and all sort of other things that the Daily Mail tells them about every day.

The Banksy one is an image that they're perfectly used to, just put in a place they're not used to... if there's text to read on a Banksy, you can always read it clearly. Traditional burners are often illegible even to other Graffers... no wonder the general public are confused/intimidated by them.

Banksy's alright. He's overhyped by the masses and underloved by the heads because of it.

This in New Orleans is one of my favourite pieces:

djelements · Post by **djelements** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:12 pm

XArcane wrote: I've always hated "I'm an artist." People ask me what I do, and I say "I draw stuff, and hopefully I'll be doing that for my job in the near future."

Now that's what I'd call pretentious. If someone creates and sells artwork for a living why shouldn't they be called an artist. You just sound like rebel without a cause being adverse just for the sake of it.
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No offense, but way to completely miss the point. Sure, I'm an "artist", but honestly, my shit sucks. I mean, I guess anybody who makes "art" is an artist, but I like to hold myself to high standards. So, from the way you see it, comparing yourself to others and realizing they're better than you is pretentious? I thought it was the other way around, man.

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:26 pm

like really...wtf?

did you people hate Andy Warhol too? i mean he capitalized on the capitalism he mocked, right? as have MANY other artists of classic & contemporary context. Today its become so fucking popular to over-analyze art until you have broken it down to something far more simple & wasteful than ever intended. It happens to every new kind of music & art that comes along.

i read something from Banksy back in the 90s that said he was just part of this & that if everyone would do their own thing then his wouldnt stand out so much. That pretty much sums it up for me. Instead of bitching about what this guy paints on a wall...GO PAINT SOMETHING BETTER ON A FUCKING WALL.

to quote Sole from Anticon(i think)..."You want to join the revolution? Then wipe that Clear Channel off the billboards"

and this guy is DEAD ON:
"Banksy's alright. He's overhyped by the masses and underloved by the heads because of it."

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