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faust.dtc · Post by **faust.dtc** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:06 am

I grew up watching martial arts films and was wondering if any of you Ninjas have ever studied a form of self defence?

Which do you do or which would you like to do. Which styles do you admire and which do consider most effective etc...

I Boxed for 2 years which i found was good for fast footwork, overall defence, cardiovascular and breathing techniques. I did Karate for 2 years which was good for a powerful agressive attack but also self discipline and control.
I have been studying Wing Chun Kung Fu for 3 years now and find effective for close combat, similtaneous attack and defence, its ability to teach sensitivity and feeling your opponents next move and its fast, effective and devastating nature while still remaining simple and logical.

The only thing that lets WC down is ground fighting and despite being able to look after myself I fear that against a MMA fighter I wouldnt stand much of a chance against certain grapples, arm bars, leg locks etc...

cityzen · Post by **cityzen** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:29 am

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:51 am

I trained in shotokan karate for about 3 years.

faust.dtc · Post by **faust.dtc** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:20 am

CityZen wrote:That's quite a heathy mix you've got there, maybe you could round it off with some Judo lessons or even better some Jujitsu.
As for me I have trained in Shaolin gong fu for 8 years and dabbled in muay thai when I was in Thailand. I have an intrest in all martial arts and have studied a lot of them but only in books.
I've always held Wing Chun in very high reguard ever since I saw the 'Prodical Son'. Always wanted to learn it but have not had the time due to my dedication to Shaolin gong fu.
I am a Buddhist so that's a big reason why Shaolin wins over WC for me.

Do you study any particular style of Shaolin gong fu CityZen?

As im sure you are aware Wing Chun has its roots in Shaolin too and is said created by a shaolin nun to allow smaller opponents to defend them selfs from bigger attackers. The concept of re-diverting pressure and force back towards an opponent with mimimum effort has always appealed to me. I find that although Wing Chun is simple in its basics (attack is best form of defence, create protective wedge, bridge the gap, keep weight abducted on back leg etc) it is very hard to master.

It is a great all round martial art and said to be the intelligent mans martial art but like I said when it comes to ground fighting it doesnt seem to have a back up plan so I am considering Jujitsu.

I have a great admiration for Muay Thai as well and if I was to study another form of martial arts this would probably be it. We dont use kicks or knees much so i think this can help me to balance me.

And as for Prodigal Son, well it was actually one of the movies that made me want to look into Wing Chun in the first place. Great movie...

drokkr · Post by **drokkr** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:33 am

always had any interest but never got off my ass so, i'm starting krav maga after i get the summer and it's excesses out of the way.

my mate wants me to start kung fu with him also, he has been doing for years and is a proper ninja. looks like he's bruce lees body double now

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:52 am

Whatever you choose to do just make sure you spa frequently
its the best way to learn to stay calm when adrenalin takes over
also it helps you learn to read opponents and yeild their attacks

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:48 pm

Whineo wrote:Whatever you choose to do just make sure you spa frequently
its the best way to learn to stay calm when adrenalin takes over
also it helps you learn to read opponents and yeild their attacks

Yep, I always enjoyed sparring more than kata when I did karate. Mainly because I did it from the age of 11 to 14 and used to love fighting. I think now I'd prefer kata.

My sensei was pretty mad though, she always put me with adults in sparring and just told me to make as much of a mess of them as possible. I fought two teachers from my secondary school before I went there, that was funny. Fighting my dad was weird as well.

reverend dale · Post by **reverend dale** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:16 pm

I was thrown out of the SAS for being too hard

faust.dtc · Post by **faust.dtc** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:22 pm

Reverend Dale wrote:I was thrown out of the SAS for being too erect

Fixed...

reverend dale · Post by **reverend dale** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:25 pm

My great uncle was awarded a VC, you don't know what you're fucking with, maaan

faust.dtc · Post by **faust.dtc** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:30 pm

Reverend Dale wrote:

My great uncle was awarded a VC, you don't know what you're fucking with, maaan

Im gonna take VC as meaning Vietnamese Child...so I know who he is fucking with...

cityzen · Post by **cityzen** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:33 pm

faust.dtc · Post by **faust.dtc** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:11 pm

CityZen wrote:
FAUST.DTC wrote:Do you study any particular style of Shaolin gong fu CityZen?
Rooster, Oxen, Horse, Snake and Quin Na (Chin Na) in the form of White Crane. I also study Qi Gong.
Quin Na has to be my favourite though as one can overcome their opponent with a lot of pain which goes quickly as soon as (or soon after) the hold is released. I see it as the most compassionate martial art as it massively reduces lasting damage to ones opponent. It also teaches healing techniques which many other martial arts would just ignore.

Wow im very impressed, I have always wanted to learn a proper animal form. Wing Chun uses certain animal techniques but is more of a mixture of many martial arts. Ive always been interested in crane, snake or mantis. I know a guy who studied monkey for about 14 years. Its funny to look at but he is a well trained and deadly guy, last thing you would expect from a guy on the streets of Battersea...

I always wanted to know about Quin Na, it seems very mystical yet it is just manipulation of muscles and joints. I remember seeing something in a kung fu film once where a guy was in prison, paralysed i think and he had to teach a woman a similar technique so she could manipulate the pressure points in his back and help him to move and fight again.

As for Qi Gong, is this similar to tai chi and do you find it effective. I was taught a bit of tai chi once but couldnt really clear my mind and channel my energy as i experience with a lot of meditation techniques.

reverend dale · Post by **reverend dale** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:23 pm

FAUST.DTC wrote:
Reverend Dale wrote:

My great uncle was awarded a VC, you don't know what you're fucking with, maaan
Im gonna take VC as meaning Vietnamese Child...so I know who he is fucking with...

http://www.victoriacross.org.uk/bbcollis.htm

But he could it taken off him for shagging about

HamCrescendo · Post by **HamCrescendo** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:26 pm

I watched the last half of karate kid at the pub the other day.

That count?

Coppola · Post by **Coppola** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:29 pm

I was Black belt at karate when i was 13 but quit soon after. i would have had to train on friday saturday and sunday. fuck that!

missedthebus · Post by **missedthebus** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:27 pm

Got up to Brown belt at Judo when I was a little kid.. cant remember any of it nowadays apart from one or two throws. Doubt i'd have the sense to use them if ever needed though. Martial Arts need constant practice to become instinctive

cityzen · Post by **cityzen** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:23 pm

r4ktu · Post by **r4ktu** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:31 pm

Before i dislocated my shoulder (skiing) last year i used to do thai boxing semi professionally. It is an amazing sport, i fought in Thailand, France, Spain, Belgium, Czech Republic, Ireland, Scotland and Japan and have the best memories of it. Would recommend giving it a try to anyone. It's just a shame the money in it doesnt match ufc or boxing

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yooamatwa · Post by **yooamatwa** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:47 pm

Cool thread

I dabbled with a bit of Judo when I was younger but mostly focus on kung fu (Hung Gar) now days.

Practising five animals (tiger,crane,leopard,snake,dragon) broadsword,pole.
getting on to five elements soonish... also a bit of tai chi (yang).

Also do a bunch of northern kicks, which quite frankly I'm shit at..but I think I'm getting better

I would love to do a bit of cross training at some point but time is always against me.

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