Rihanna doing dubstep?

[rubadub]

rihanna doing dubstep?
i'd be more interested in rihanna doing me

Maybe she ups for a gang bang fuck it..

spit roast her?

we can do high fives but no looking in my eyes

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Agreed!!

Hahaha jokes. She is damn fine. I quite like umbrella too, at least she does actually have an eye for a tune unlike some pop shit. This will probably be pretty mediocre though, but you never know.

[POND LIFE]

the thing is, dubstep doesn't -need- exposure. people in dubstep on the whole i imagine don't want the mainstream to get its claws into it, it's great as it is. anyone arguing that mainstream/commercial interference in a genre doesn't make it more watered down, lowest common denominator and otherwise crap is wrong.

Yeah i sure would agree that. You know, just because a few people may do something with some commercial value does not mean the people that currently keep on making good records are about to fuck that all off and go work with The Pussycat Dolls or some shit. If you think that doesn't that show how little faith you have in these producers? Yeah it'll attract some chancers but if a scene can't stand up to that then it got no staying power anyway.
But then i wouldn't say drum & bass was dead either as there are some amazing producers out there making music right now.

when i say 'dead' i don't mean that there is literally nothing good coming out of it anymore. there are still artists making some new and interesting shit.
when i say 'dead' i mean i go to a dnb rave, and i've heard over 50-60% of the tracks before, and i don't go to that many raves and tbh i'm no more than casually into it. that's when its dead, when the amount of fresh stuff coming out is so low that someone who doesn't really care about dnb goes out on a night and gets bored because it's all old even to him.

[alphacat]

Btw I hate pendulum now. back with their first handfull of tracks were tight, now they are ballz.

CLOWNSTEP 4-EVER!



Heh.

[jedison]

I think it's cool. Coming from a shitty city where it's all fruitbag hipster fidget/electro and gangster rap I'll be down if I hear dubstep in some shit clubs here. Plus good for Chase & Status doing what they do, who would not want to move on and get to work with different types of artists?

When Eastern Jam was called Eastern Dub and was played dubplate style in mixes people were all over it, now that it's popular people hate on Chase & Status. It's a shame some aspects of the Dubstep scene can be just as cliche as all the others...

[ascii]

now that it's popular people hate on Chase & Status.

I don't think it's a matter of it being popular to hate them. I genuinely think there production values are tight as fuck... But in being so clean and clinical, like a lot of drum & bass there tracks have lost their soul and now sound manufactured and lifeless like pop music.
But it's not only their manufactured 'clean' processed sound, but the fact that their tracks sound cheesy. I mean what's with the track Pieces for example... Guitar and an MC singing! I'm all for being original, but that is not, that is trying to bring indi pop sounds to Drum & Bass... And that, for me at least is a musical Joke.

I find these comments in thread quite strange. Why all this emphasis on money and fame being applauded?
Shouldn't their musical ability be what they are praised for? Not what record label they're signed to or the fact they are working with a 'main stream artist,' nor their future bank balance.

True musicians do not 'sell out.' And by sell out, I mean rip the sound a genre which is relatively underground and (without unreasonable doubt) churn out a watered down version of that genre for money just because it is seen as the in thing.

True genius is awarded on its merits, NOT on its financial gain.

[jedison]

now that it's popular people hate on Chase & Status.

I don't think it's a matter of it being popular to hate them. I genuinely think there production values are tight as fuck... But in being so clean and clinical, like a lot of drum & bass there tracks have lost their soul and now sound manufactured and lifeless like pop music.
But it's not only their manufactured 'clean' processed sound, but the fact that their tracks sound cheesy. I mean what's with the track Pieces for example... Guitar and an MC singing! I'm all for being original, but that is not, that is trying to bring indi pop sounds to Drum & Bass... And that, for me at least is a musical Joke.

I find these comments in thread quite strange. Why all this emphasis on money and fame being applauded?
Shouldn't their musical ability be what they are praised for? Not what record label they're signed to or the fact they are working with a 'main stream artist,' nor their future bank balance.

True musicians do not 'sell out.' And by sell out, I mean rip the sound a genre which is relatively underground and (without unreasonable doubt) churn out a watered down version of that genre for money just because it is seen as the in thing.

True genius is awarded on its merits, NOT on its financial gain.

Still doesn't address the point how everyone was all over "Eastern Dub" and now "Eastern Jam" is lacking soul...

I think people are assuming they're being rewarded for their financial merits, just so they can unload their same old same generic BS speech about keeping music real vs selling out. No one's applauding them for becoming rich and famous but they're at a point where they can work with some bigger names and hopefully get some different results.

More Than Alot was a sick album, with so much love in it that I don't know how anyone can bad mouth them. It's one of the few albums from the underground in recent memory where every tune was unique not just some rehash of their style over and over. That's somehow worse than just making variations of the same stuff over and over?

[ascii]

Still doesn't address the point how everyone was all over "Eastern Dub" and now "Eastern Jam" is lacking soul...

Just because something is popular and people are 'all over' something does not make it good. I honestly didn't like either tracks.

I think people are assuming they're being rewarded for their financial merits, just so they can unload their same old same generic BS speech about keeping music real vs selling out. No one's applauding them for becoming rich and famous but they're at a point where they can work with some bigger names and hopefully get some different results.

...Bigger names are not 'Rihanna'
Rhianna is nothing, all she does is sing and then engineers add reverb, delay, chorus, compression etc. Stick it through an autotuner like Melodine occasionally and then put the vocal track on another producers work get it mastered and have the balls to say the song is by.... Rihanna.

This argument totally destroys her 'musical' credibility apart from the fact she can lay down a vocal track. And if by bigger names you mean more successful, and not more talent you have proven my point. Sales does not equate to Talent.

Big names to me are Richard D James, Robert Haigh... people who love music with a passion and have a devoted following without purposely trying to make consumer friendly tracks, but rather tracks they themselves love. They have passion & soul for music, something commercial music artists like Rhianna do not, and something pop music and widely regarded mainstream artists seem to lack today when compared to underground musicians.

More Than Alot was a sick album, with so much love in it that I don't know how anyone can bad mouth them. It's one of the few albums from the underground in recent memory where every tune was unique not just some rehash of their style over and over. That's somehow worse than just making variations of the same stuff over and over?

So much love, but so much cheese. Musical opinion is subjective, and I don't mean to come off as an egotistical narcissist but it is my opinion that people who do not love music with a true passion fail to notice the difference between trashy pop which is a transparent money making device for vocalists like Madonna, Britney & now Rihanna, who are made out to be more than they are.

Whens the last time you heard Classical music or Jazz played on a mainstream radio station that also plays the three above mentioned artists above? And yes I am indeed making the statement that Jazz & Classical are higher forms of music with more love put into them, and more talent and dedication than any Chase & Status track or Rihanna track.

The similar kind of passion that comes close to these higher forms of music is underground artists that are constantly pushing musical boundary, something mainstream music will never attempt.

[jedison]

How do you know Chase & Status' intent? They're probably making the music they like and they work hard so I doubt they'd work that hard on something they hate.

[♫♪♫]

just because somethings popular doesnt mean you should hate it...

wha????

Yes it DOES!

This is the internet! That's what you do here!

[ascii]

How do you know Chase & Status' intent?

It is always with the best intentions that the worst work is done.
-Oscar Wilde

I doubt they would intentionally try to water down this dubstep track on purpose (if it is indeed true) but money talks.

[jedison]

How do you know Chase & Status' intent?

It is always with the best intentions that the worst work is done.
-Oscar Wilde

I doubt they would intentionally try to water down this dubstep track on purpose (if it is indeed true) but money talks.

Still don't get what you mean by money talks? They're successful so they're shit? Don't get your logic, well I get what you're saying but it really seems unfounded.

[ascii]

How do you know Chase & Status' intent?

It is always with the best intentions that the worst work is done.
-Oscar Wilde

I doubt they would intentionally try to water down this dubstep track on purpose (if it is indeed true) but money talks.

Still don't get what you mean by money talks?

What I'm saying is they are going to do do what the record label and head producer wants them too because they're getting payed a lot of money. So your not going to hear anything new, it's going to be watered down shite because that is what Rihanna fans like.

well I get what you're saying

So you can see the Logic, but your stuck in your mindset of thinking that all music's good and that there's no correlation between airplay and how generic the music is. Think about it for minute. Because if you really love music you'll be able to tell the difference between between pop shite, and inspired music. Music is art, and like art you have to be a fascist when it comes to your opinions because there's a lot of idiots out there.

[jedison]

Look I get what you're saying, but I think it's illogical is what I meant, I can honestly type anything here and it will turn into a generic essayish rant that's been done to death a hundred times over. Blame group/artist "X" for all the problems in music and true to sound true OF at the same time etc. Like really I'm not going to argue it anymore, I'm talking about specific shit and then parts of my senetences are quoted not in their entirety and blah blah same old internet shit and I already feel retarded for typing this much about it so I'm gonna stop typing in this thread now. Oh and thanks for telling me what my mindset is, clearly you're wrong but whatever, I'm sure because not enough people tell you shit to your face you asssume you're correct about everything, classic internet generic person shit. Continue with the essays though.

[ascii]

Oh and thanks for telling me what my mindset is, clearly you're wrong but whatever

Wrong about what? That music like Britney Spears is shit, or that Classical & Jazz >>> Dubstep & whatever else in artistic merit. Or that you will never hear true underground music on mainstream radio (the names even contradict each other).

I'm sure because not enough people tell you shit to your face you asssume you're correct about everything, classic internet generic person shit. Continue with the essays though.

Well obviously I'm correct on everything, because my opinions are subjective therefore my opinion in my opinion is right.

And as for things which are not based on opinion but on fact. I accept facts backed up by evidence & from all the evidence on a subject I base a theory on that. That theory is my opinion, but it is based on a solid hypothesis using all available evidence to me.

Your Logic is flawed because you assume that large record companies like Universal care about artistic merit over money. If that was the case they wouldn't be as successful as they are today.

Your logic is flawed. Not mine.

[jedison]

Oh and thanks for telling me what my mindset is, clearly you're wrong but whatever

Wrong about what? That music like Britney Spears is shit, or that Classical & Jazz >>> Dubstep & whatever else in artistic merit. Or that you will never hear true underground music on mainstream radio (the names even contradict each other).

I'm sure because not enough people tell you shit to your face you asssume you're correct about everything, classic internet generic person shit. Continue with the essays though.

Well obviously I'm correct on everything, because my opinions are subjective therefore my opinion in my opinion is right.

And as for things which are not based on opinion but on fact. I accept facts backed up by evidence & from all the evidence on a subject I base a theory on that. That theory is my opinion, but it is based on a solid hypothesis using all available evidence to me.

Your Logic is flawed because you assume that large record companies like Universal care about artistic merit over money. If that was the case they wouldn't be as successful as they are today.

Your logic is flawed. Not mine.

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.....I hope a prof is grading you for all this.

[hurlingdervish]

Oh and thanks for telling me what my mindset is, clearly you're wrong but whatever

Wrong about what? That music like Britney Spears is shit, or that Classical & Jazz >>> Dubstep & whatever else in artistic merit. Or that you will never hear true underground music on mainstream radio (the names even contradict each other).

I'm sure because not enough people tell you shit to your face you asssume you're correct about everything, classic internet generic person shit. Continue with the essays though.

Well obviously I'm correct on everything, because my opinions are subjective therefore my opinion in my opinion is right.

And as for things which are not based on opinion but on fact. I accept facts backed up by evidence & from all the evidence on a subject I base a theory on that. That theory is my opinion, but it is based on a solid hypothesis using all available evidence to me.

Your Logic is flawed because you assume that large record companies like Universal care about artistic merit over money. If that was the case they wouldn't be as successful as they are today.

Your logic is flawed. Not mine.

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.....I hope a prof is grading you for all this.

youre right he is right....

you cant say what something is to someone else.

like, i could say, "You are an asshole" but what i really mean is "You appear to be an asshole to me." whether or not you think you are an asshole is a hole different story.

[subwyze]

Not sure if she really will drop some dubstep, don't really care one way or another... but there are some naked pic's of here online now!

She looks pretty tasty.... ha, ha...



Nice.....

[alphacat]

I'm so dirty... need a shower bad!

[ruckus49]

her face looks like a baby with that big forehead

[mico viejo]

chase and status r technically talented posh blokes with their sights set on the bigtime. white-middle-class rehashing some weak-assed watered down version of music pioneered by britain's multi-cultural working class well over 10 years ago.

and good for them. they know what they r doing, its the fools that buy that shit that i feel bad for. (and the ppl who originated this music in the early 90s, most of who've never seen money for their talent/hard-work and probably went back to working in mcdonalds, but we shant mention them...)

and if dubstep sells-out or goes/has gone shit, so what? listen to some good music instead. there'll always be good music, whatever the label...


EDIT: oh, what i actually meant to say was: in 10 years time chase and status will be standard stock aitken and waterman-type industry producers churning out formulaic dogshit for the latest pop act, and any brief "urban" period in their past will be long forgotten. anyone can see what they are aiming for: a couple of dudes off university challenge were never gonna settle for a few yrs of underground fame and then back to the day job, what would mummy and daddy say?

EDIT 2: obviously what I really mean to say was: rihanna: well hellllloooooo