Dubstep is more than music

[mixmas]

Hi,

first post here, check this, personally it blewed my mind the first half of it, after it gets boring:

http://www.vision-nest.com/cbw/Metaphor.html

Safe

Mas

[seebs2000]

Blimey, draw for the dictionary...

He seemed to be saying that we move through phases, and that we are currently in transition from one to another at the moment. I guess the link to dubstep you mean is that as one genre declines, another one rises to replace it (the business of 'S' curves...)

Certainly dubstep is on the rise, but I wasn't sure if it had many other comparisons. For example, when previous phases/paradigms have declined, then that was game over for them. But in terms of music genres, this isn't always the case. Something like Disco exploded, but then suffered a backlash and that was it (same for 80s New Romantic music i suppose). But if you look at smth like Jungle/DnB, it declined but then revived. Same can be said of UKG, a year or two ago 'Garage is dead' seemed to be the message, but I know plenty of people on this forum would disagree strongly.

The way i see it, music genres go through evolution, whereas the article seemed to be saying that paradigms are violently replaced by one another, even if that transition takes hundreds of years.

Anyways, when i saw the title of this post, I thought it meant Dubstep is more than music in the sense of Hip-Hop i.e. an accompanying culture, attitude etc. There is (IMO) much more of a community around dubstep than some other genres, but that may be just because the scene is still small enough for a tight network to be possible. The future of dubstep and all that is a contentious point I suppose.

[mixmas]

Yeah I reckon it's not written the best way it should be but basically it says that today we as humans are in front of a real phenomenal challenge: it's inside ourselves, we have to completely change the way we see things and think, because lots of our values are still based on the old dying system which doesn't work anymore.

And for me Dubstep is carrying THIS message - amongst others -, mostly in a subconscious manner for the moment.

Damn difficult to explain properly really...

[will]

deep

[dubaholic]

Yo!

Nice post mixmas......

When a paradigm shift occurs in science, according to Kuhn, it has the violence of a revolution. The leaders of the dominating paradigm seem to want to kill off those who are proposing the emerging paradigm. And they do kill people, if not physically, then in terms of career, recognition and psychological well-being. Past paradigm shifts in the world have produced actual violence as in the persecution of the Christians by the Romans during the shift from the classical to the medieval mind or in the inquisitions that sometimes involved scientists during the seventeenth century that marked the shift from the medieval to the modern or scientific mind.

We see some forms of violence today as we begin to move into a new paradigm. This is particularly true in institutions like government, education, health care, law, and religion where the restrictions against fundamental change are strong indeed. Such restrictions from the dominant paradigm can be found in business also. However business is seen by many as the lead institution in this paradigm shift, not only because it is the dominant institution on the planet but also because it is an institution that, relatively speaking, seems to thrive on change.

this made the most impact on me......


also my first post!

peace.

[mixmas]

cheers, anytime mate !

I thought this post would possibly generate some huge interest but yeah the damn text is too long, so very probably not a lot bothers going through it...

Rather than believing it only when we see it, the emerging viewpoint seems to be that we will see it only when we believe it, shifting the locus of control from the outside to the inside.

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The world is in crisis, filled with danger and opportunity. And we have to get into the flow of the process of the world as it is transformed. Community building is the best way that I know for doing this work, whether it is mandated by God or not. The charge we have now was expressed by Albert Schweitzer in this way:

A man is ethical only when life, as such, is sacred to him, that of plants and animals as well as that of his fellowman, and when he devotes himself helpfully to all life that is in need of help.

And even earlier this charge was given by Marcus Aurelius:

Constantly regard the universe as one living being, having one substance and one soul; and observe how all things have reference to one perception, the perception of this one living being; and how all things act with one movement; and how all things are the cooperating causes of all things which exist.