The New World Order and the Illuminati

j-sh · Post by **j-sh** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:25 pm

lol people are always like that when you talk about anything to do with conspiracy - its like some sort of jeb end right of passage

Its weird though about 6 months i was seriously into it all, reading william cooper and (shock) david icke. Then after a while i kind of became accustomed to it. Like reading infowars every day after a while i was just like

and now i kind of just think that government is inherently oppressive, and that any aspiration towards 'freedom' from a physically determined and animalistic nature is a fantasy of christian virtue. I'm pretty into john gray, and his philosophy and also materialistic determinism of leibniz and ted honderich. and ultimately that lead me to believe that western ideology of 'liberty' is actually fictitious and liberty is really just a state of mind.
all concepts of the illuminati and anything that 'keeps you down' is just the projections of the neurotic mind - becuase ultimately you are not/and never will be 'free'

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:46 pm

mass mind control is a very real part of everybody's daily lives.

the best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:31 pm

have you all checked out the georgia guidestones?
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

hackman · Post by **hackman** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:34 pm

parson have you heard of david wilcock?

fuagofire · Post by **fuagofire** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:59 pm

Parson wrote:mass mind control is a very real part of everybody's daily lives.

the best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.

dreamizm · Post by **dreamizm** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:32 am

Parson wrote:have you all checked out the georgia guidestones?
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

LOL.

lloydnoise · Post by **lloydnoise** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:42 am

Jungleboy wrote:"Biggup your spiny chests" Thats quality.

The technology that "they" know about is inconceivable. Take the dark matter project into acount. That massive underground lab in Swizerland where they smash electrodes into each other at the speed of light. We have had a short glimpse of what that can do and then nothing, media blackout.

What I dont like is how they control the education system. Feeding you lies from when you enter school because its compulsary. I have heard various different accounts of history from across the globe and I wish to know why we are not taught about the original religion from South Africa, where humanity came from, surely thats the closest we are going to get to religious truth???

Haha, didn't get further than this but got to say, obvious troll is pretty fucking obvious...
Electrodes??? Haha... LHC broke and they're fixing it, logs of every experiment proposed performed, every fix, every change in the system are publically available. There's no conspiracy there I'm afraid. As for the Bilderberg group (and the Illuminati and the Tri-Lateral Committee and so on) they are powerful poeple with influence who share common interests. Sure it's a bit secretive but it's not full of evil nefarious 'overlords' plotting to enslave the world, just 'oldboys' in their private club discussing global politics, finance etc. Would you open up your private conversations to the media/ public?
And don't even think about bringing up Reptilians...

lloydnoise · Post by **lloydnoise** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:49 pm

the main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless."

truth[/quote]

nice, just read this, nail meets head

magma · Post by **magma** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:29 pm

lloydnoise wrote:
the main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless."
truth

nice, just read this, nail meets head[/quote]

Word.

All kinds of groups try to exert a bit of influence... governments, armies, secret societies, pressure groups (anarchists and anti-capitalists also have meetings/rallies about how they can shape the world in their vision!), musicians, writers, artists, scientists.... well, basically everyone that takes an interest.

Unfortunately, it doesn't really work. A small group of people trying to steer a world of 6 billion free thinkers is like trying to make an oil tanker change course by ramming it with a rubber dinghy.

NilsFG · Post by **NilsFG** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:17 pm

Jungleboy wrote:Nobody knows the truth. Its very sad........

Conspiracy theorists do take comfort in what they say, its like a Christian believing in God. If people tell me something is BS then I have to ask why. Maybe Reptilians are controlling the earth, do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

Well personally I think it can't be true since we would have seen the evolution from stupid gecko to intelligent lizard.

Strange things happen in the world and pointing your fingers at some serious people isn't the solution.
People should try an think for themselves, because all the so-called evidence of the illuminati's evil plans to enslave us all is propaganda too. Propaganda of mass-hysteria.
IMHO, you should be more afraid of people warning us for the illuminati, the bilderberg group etc than those groups itself.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:43 pm

pk- wrote: The powers that be have been trying to scare the shit out of their wards for centuries though.

exactly. you can trace it back to the pharoahs in egypt. even the history of the crusades and the knights of templar. fear/evil/darkness was being used as a tool for centuries to hold people down, control them, speak to their own emptyness. there's definitely a vast majority of people out there that like to have something to blame and point fingers at, instead of looking in the mirror and trying to reconcile their own fears/issues/insecurities head on.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:45 pm

Magma wrote:
lloydnoise wrote:
the main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless."
truth

this.

magma · Post by **magma** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:19 pm

Jungleboy wrote:Maybe Reptilians are controlling the earth, do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

No, but it wasn't even an idea until relatively recently... if someone hadn't thought it up (because there's no evidence for it) then we wouldn't even have a concept of it.

The world could just as likely be run by the rats that live in my shed.... there's about the same amount of evidence around for it.

paolo · Post by **paolo** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:41 pm

Five pathetic groups that people think rule the world (yes, the Illuminati are in there) - http://www.cracked.com/article_17469_5- ... world.html

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:47 pm

people in this thread are so fucking narrow minded...

and the constant mention of reptilians every few posts cos it's so fucking hilarious

if you guys want to live in the dark go for it but there is an adult conversation going on

just because people think shit is going on doesn't mean they believe in reptilians..

paolo · Post by **paolo** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:16 pm

In dictatorships such as China, North Korea, Cuba etc when people speak out against the government they end up in a lot of trouble, to put it mildly

Russian journalist and human rights activist murdered the other day - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8153536.stm

If there is a NWO/Illuminati type group controlling the world, would they not just take out people who try and expose their evil doings and shut down forums such as this one?

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:19 pm

paolo wrote:In dictatorships such as China, North Korea, Cuba etc when people speak out against the government they end up in a lot of trouble, to put it mildly

Russian journalist and human rights activist murdered the other day - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8153536.stm

If there is a NWO/Illuminati type group controlling the world, would they not just take out people who try and expose their evil doings and shut down forums such as this one?

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