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Post by JFK » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:28 pm

rich w wrote:Cheers for all the replies. Looks like Ableton is the way to go - anyone know if the LE version has the warp feature cos money's a bit of an issue at the moment!

I've also heard that Reaper is quite good for this and its cheap - anyone used this before?
Mate, if you need to know ANYTHING about reaper then ask Futures Untold. He is a fountain of knowledge on the subject.....

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Post by __________ » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:56 pm

no need for ableton at all. anything with a pitch control can do it!
if you're talking about using ableton's timestretching function and shit, that's not going to sound as good as beatmatching the acapella anyway. you'd be better off doing it the long way by getting it perfectly in time on the pitch fader, and not timestretching it.

get the original track that the acapella is from, and beatmatch that to the beat you want to lay the acapella over, then take a note of the +/- of the pitch fader. remove the track with the vocals, replace it with the acapella, change the pitch of the acapella to the same as the beatmatched track with the same vocal. done.

if you know the track well enough, you should be able to tell when its in time and where the bars line up. when the mc goes into the chorus or whatever, it should be on a 16...simple really!

bottom line for me - its easier to get an acapella in time on a set of 1210's than ableton. don't make it confusing, there's no need!

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Post by yeager » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:23 pm

£10 Bag wrote:no need for ableton at all. anything with a pitch control can do it!
if you're talking about using ableton's timestretching function and shit, that's not going to sound as good as beatmatching the acapella anyway. you'd be better off doing it the long way by getting it perfectly in time on the pitch fader, and not timestretching it.

get the original track that the acapella is from, and beatmatch that to the beat you want to lay the acapella over, then take a note of the +/- of the pitch fader. remove the track with the vocals, replace it with the acapella, change the pitch of the acapella to the same as the beatmatched track with the same vocal. done.

if you know the track well enough, you should be able to tell when its in time and where the bars line up. when the mc goes into the chorus or whatever, it should be on a 16...simple really!

bottom line for me - its easier to get an acapella in time on a set of 1210's than ableton. don't make it confusing, there's no need!
sorry this is way wrong.ableton is much easier and sounds much better.

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Post by abZ » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:30 pm

£10 Bag wrote:no need for ableton at all. anything with a pitch control can do it!
if you're talking about using ableton's timestretching function and shit, that's not going to sound as good as beatmatching the acapella anyway. you'd be better off doing it the long way by getting it perfectly in time on the pitch fader, and not timestretching it.

get the original track that the acapella is from, and beatmatch that to the beat you want to lay the acapella over, then take a note of the +/- of the pitch fader. remove the track with the vocals, replace it with the acapella, change the pitch of the acapella to the same as the beatmatched track with the same vocal. done.

if you know the track well enough, you should be able to tell when its in time and where the bars line up. when the mc goes into the chorus or whatever, it should be on a 16...simple really!

bottom line for me - its easier to get an acapella in time on a set of 1210's than ableton. don't make it confusing, there's no need!
Ableton isn't confusing :|

What happens when your acapella is 120 bpm and you want to make a dubstep tune? Chipmunks haven't been in style since '93.

EDIT oh and your method would surely put your acapella in between keys. It would suck having to adjust each track you add by cents in order to keep everything in key. Not sure you have thought this thing through properly.

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Post by hurlingdervish » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:51 pm

you can align tracks in ableton without stretching them, and its still easier.

anything else would be a headache to go back to once you are used to it

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Post by adam_john » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:24 pm

Ya, ableton warping is much easier then going through the whole beatmatch scenario.

my opinion anyway.
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