Gating

fuzzington · Post by **fuzzington** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:44 pm

Just a quick question, although i know what a gate is, expecially good for recordings will spill therefore utalising the sound you want on that channel, but has anyone found weird and wonderfull ways to use them? i know chasing shadows used one at the end of the bass in ill, HOW THE FUCK

just interested people

sook · Post by **sook** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:44 am

not really weird but...
i like to sometimes gate snares and kicks
(or any element with a defined transient)
individually to control the envelope
of the hit...
attack all the way down... adjust the
hold then release to taste...

gates can be good to clean up
hits quickly... control spill and therefore
make more room in the mix for other
elements...

depends on the samples really and what
needs to be done to them..

distro · Post by **distro** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:02 am

gate your reverb on the snare for that big 80's snare!

lowpass · Post by **lowpass** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:08 am

Yeah I haven't used gated reverb but I hear it's suppose to be the shit,

your right, gating drums can make em sound punchier by emphasizing the transient

could use it on vocal samples if theres background crap you want out in the silent parts

mr. lizard · Post by **mr. lizard** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:31 am

Eops wrote:
distro wrote:gate your reverb on the snare for that big 80's snare!
No please dont start all that again!

Did you know the world record for the most amount of reverb on a snare is held by Whitney Houston's 'I will always love you'? Its actually illegal to play it in Indonesia

Why? Gating the Reverb on the snare can give a nice sound, Good tip imo

mr. lizard · Post by **mr. lizard** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:38 am

Adjusting the Gate of Reverb on a clap is good aswell, Turn up the decay and have a quick release

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:28 pm

sidechain a gate off of something else-- let your kick/snare control a pad, etc.

julesee · Post by **julesee** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:36 pm

TeReKeTe wrote:sidechain a gate off of something else-- let your kick/snare control a pad, etc.

Can you link / explain this process please? Before i charred my computer, I was trying to do this in Live.

Did some searching but I'd like to find a legit article

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:23 am

^

maybe not the kick or snare (too simple a pattern), but especially if you have a hihat or percussion line you like, put a gate on a pad and set it up (however you do it for your combination of plug/daw) so that you're sending those hats or perc to the gate as a sidechain source...

that's it really. rhythmically, your pad will now follow the pattern of that originally instrument. at that point, you can try bouncing the pad, re-importing it, and delaying/etc it to turn it into a whole different, movement-based bit of the tune.

yamaz · Post by **yamaz** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:37 am

Can someone explain how to gate a sound at different resolutions such as a vocal or pad in ableton live? For instance in Reason you can use the matrix to send gate trigger volume of any instrument through the mixer or the instrument. From there you can change the resolution to be 1/18 or 1/16 and get that classic gated trance vocal sound

....the only way I've been able to do it in ableton is by manually adjusting the volume envelope of a sample but that is fucking worthless waste of time and doesn't change resolutions on the fly.

Thanks for clearnig this up you awesome people!

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:04 am

TeReKeTe wrote:^

maybe not the kick or snare (too simple a pattern), but especially if you have a hihat or percussion line you like, put a gate on a pad and set it up (however you do it for your combination of plug/daw) so that you're sending those hats or perc to the gate as a sidechain source...

that's it really. rhythmically, your pad will now follow the pattern of that originally instrument. at that point, you can try bouncing the pad, re-importing it, and delaying/etc it to turn it into a whole different, movement-based bit of the tune.

great idea... I'm gonna try this out!

boomstix · Post by **boomstix** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:53 am

Yamaz wrote:Can someone explain how to gate a sound at different resolutions such as a vocal or pad in ableton live? For instance in Reason you can use the matrix to send gate trigger volume of any instrument through the mixer or the instrument. From there you can change the resolution to be 1/18 or 1/16 and get that classic gated trance vocal sound

....the only way I've been able to do it in ableton is by manually adjusting the volume envelope of a sample but that is fucking worthless waste of time and doesn't change resolutions on the fly.

Thanks for clearnig this up you awesome people!

try triggering your gate with a signal running through an arpeggiator.

then on the arp. you can easily change the resolution to 1/16 or 1/8/ etc

just mute the audio so you don't hear the arp's signal and it only triggers the gate

paradigm_x · Post by **paradigm_x** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:28 pm

gates are great on percussion loops. Also a rythmixc, LFO gate is great (saw this in a subfocus ? someone like that, midrangeandbass type) Future Music tutorial on youtube. Set a gate at like 1/4s or something and it will duck where your kicks and snares are at. Teh Boh.

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:27 pm

grooki wrote:
TeReKeTe wrote:^

maybe not the kick or snare (too simple a pattern), but especially if you have a hihat or percussion line you like, put a gate on a pad and set it up (however you do it for your combination of plug/daw) so that you're sending those hats or perc to the gate as a sidechain source...

that's it really. rhythmically, your pad will now follow the pattern of that originally instrument. at that point, you can try bouncing the pad, re-importing it, and delaying/etc it to turn it into a whole different, movement-based bit of the tune.
great idea... I'm gonna try this out!

it's an old disco trick, really-- chic was notorious for using the groove of an instrument that was in the pocket (ie, nile rogers' guitar) and using that to key an otherwise lackluster keyboard performance.

karmacazee · Post by **karmacazee** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:52 am

Also good for glitching things up. Use it at the end of bars for interesting fills.

Also, use it as a send effect on a bus and send varying levels of different instruments through your sidechained gate. Add delay + other cool effects. Et' voila, instant glitch!

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