The New World Order and the Illuminati

[lloydnoise]

heavily involved with Bag of Pigs...

i just pissed myself, thats a great sentence

Piston:
It's hard to discuss this without being a bit silly about it because the whole thing is pretty silly. Reptilians are prepoterous but so are 90% of conspiracy theories and just believeing in them because they are possible is equally as absurd.

Occam's razor: try finding the simplest answer to a question because it's probably the right one, for example:

"He talks about the zulu creation story and how interbreeding with reptilians is why certain bloodlines still hold power"
hmmmmm

[NilsFG]

People bring up the lizards because it's a ridiculous idea (in my opinion).
But just like any other conspiracy theory, I thought about it and made my choices.

Piston: True, some people are too narrowminded but some people should use common sense.

To me, people who believe that a group of 50-100 people (I'm not saying you are one of those believers) control the world, is just fucking ridiculous, it would mean that 100 people are in charge of 6.999.900 people (1,4e-8 %).
Plus, there isn't any DECENT evidence of such groups existing (well, maybe not existing, but the fact that they are in charge). The only evidence you'll find is that from people with tin-foil hats, and compared to the articles on wikipedia, you're better of trusting a bear (and everybody knows bears are liars).
And it's true there isn't any evidence of them not being in charge either, but I just used my logic to make my choice. In the end it's just like believing in God, some people say God is real and I just say God is an imaginary asshole.

As I said before sometimes people just can't accept the truth about the world, after all we're just floating on a rock trough space.
Any conspiracy theories about that?

[lloydnoise]

hmmmm.

You are very one sided arnt you? You need to think of things that you may not understand to be the truth. The truth is not a simple answer, you just want it to be simple because your mind couldnt handle it if it wasnt.

You laugh because your afraid, there is no way you can tell me that you know whats going on, because you dont. None of us do. This thread is for people to post things that are out of the oridnary and things that make people think.

Think man, just think about it!!!

Aside from the fact that what you wrote makes no sense, I don't claim to know the 'truth' or to 'know what's going on' (no one does! thats the point!) but if a thread appears on a forum asking 'what do you guys think of (the mexican flying illuminati monster/ the bilderberg wild cat project) I'm gonna answer it.
And yeh, i'm one sided, I like rational thought, science, logic and reason. They are awesome.
It seems that the irrational need to believe in things that there is no solid proof for beyond wild conjecture or speculation is far more fueled by some sort of 'fear' than the rational skeptiscism that opposes it.
IMHO of course

[the acid never lies]

It seems that the irrational need to believe in things that there is no solid proof for beyond wild conjecture or speculation is far more fueled by some sort of 'fear' than the rational skeptiscism that opposes it.

[the acid never lies]

[LEQ]

The merging of science and spirituality is the next stage in our evoloution. Once we realise they are one, we can all move into a higher state of consciousness.

[lloydnoise]

The merging of science and spirituality is the next stage in our evoloution. Once we realise they are one, we can all move into a higher state of conciousness.

hmm, some truth in that but science is not the opposite of spirituality, it's just a system used to make sure things things are (or seem) true or correct. Unless spirituality can stand it's ground against the rigorous observation and theory applied to the sciences it will remain nothing more than a human oddity albeit a powerful and influential one.
Idealistically I'm inclined to agree with you on some level but realistically, I don't think that science and personal spirituality will ever work as effortlessly as say, physics and mathmatics or biology and medicine but who knows...

Anyway weren't we debunking 911 or something?

[seckle]

The merging of science and spirituality is the next stage in our evoloution. Once we realise they are one, we can all move into a higher state of consciousness.

i think the understanding of spirituality is vastly more important, than merging it with science. in western societies, we're not raised to consider spirituality. in fact, you could argue that it's our biggest handicap. the idea that we as human beings must have a tangible connection between our behavior and our destiny has been disconnected. in the west, we're raised to be opportunists. this has given us the feeling of instability and made us all think we're un-equipped to deal with the modern world, and that we don't have a direct role in shaping our fate. we all definitely do. jung, called it "personal responsibility", in that the only way human society will progress and create harmony in the world is if we each as individuals take the time to develop spiritually, and understand that its the hardest and the most important journey to take.

[the acid never lies]

The merging of science and spirituality is the next stage in our evoloution. Once we realise they are one, we can all move into a higher state of consciousness.

i think the understanding of spirituality is vastly more important, than merging it with science. in western societies, we're not raised to consider spirituality. in fact, you could argue that it's our biggest handicap. the idea that we as human beings must have a tangible connection between our behavior and our destiny has been disconnected. in the west, we're raised to be opportunists. this has given us the feeling of instability and made us all think we're un-equipped to deal with the modern world, and that we don't have a direct role in shaping our fate. we all definitely do. jung, called it "personal responsibility", in that the only way human society will progress and create harmony in the world is if we each as individuals take the time to develop spiritually, and understand that its the hardest and the most important journey to take.

Interesting ideas about our disconnect and feelings of impotence - I wouldn't say it is a question of reclaiming our spirituality though, simply of focusing our energy and acknowledging our own power. I mean simple of course, and not easy.

[hurlingdervish]

Person A-"Prove to me the NWO doesn't exist!"

Person B -"There is no evidence either way"

Person A-"So Im right?"


its the same as christians saying "Prove god doesn't exist!"

YOU CANT

you can only prove things that do exist.

so come with some evidence that isnt alex jones or alternativeufotheoryjfk.org and maybe people will take it seriously

[parson]

turds in the punchbowl like moths to light

thanks lloyd

[j-sh]

you can only prove things that do exist.

care to elaborate on this little theory?

[hurlingdervish]

you can only prove things that do exist.

care to elaborate on this little theory?

its not a theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJV9EKYl2o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Negative_proof

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacie ... proof.html

[hurlingdervish]

Examples of Burden of Proof

1. Bill: "I think that we should invest more money in expanding the interstate system."
Jill: "I think that would be a bad idea, considering the state of the treasury."
Bill: "How can anyone be against highway improvements?"

2. Bill: "I think that some people have psychic powers."
Jill: "What is your proof?"
Bill: "No one has been able to prove that people do not have psychic powers."

3. "You cannot prove that God does not exist, so He does."

[parson]

like the colorblind insisting rainbows are figments of sick imagination