Overall Which Do You Think Is Better..Dubstep Or D&B?

executive steve · Post by **executive steve** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:01 pm

Well, I've a hell of a lot more DnB records, and it's still the bulk of what i buy, for better or worse... Personally i think it's unfortunate that Dubstep is currently repeating all the mistakes that DnB made, only in a shorter space of time...

What excited me about dubstep was the fact that there was finally a new style of urban sample based music that was more about the rollout and the sub bass and the subtle rhythmical changes than it was about the impact or the big drop, and the spotlight of publicity has changed that utterly; personally i blame the UK student night circuit, long a refuge for the worst variety of plastic predictable shite in DnB...

Having said that, I'm immensely grateful for the effect that Dubstep has had on DnB as a whole; it's ironic that just as Dubstep absorbed all the worst bits of DnB in the past 18 months - huuge drops, horrid midrange, Crissy Cris, "Pendulum Snares" etc that DnB has absorbed a load of the best bits of Dubstep, rediscovering elements that used to be part and parcel of the way things were done; space, dynamics, huge subs, minimalism as more than an excuse to just copy and paste a wack loop for 6 minutes...

Personally i think the future of the two genres is very much intertwined, and i think it's really interesting to what will happen to the rhythmical space between the two genres - I'd love to be able to start a set with Dubstep and progress up to DnB without having to make any really big tempo changes; when people start writing DnB at 145 or writing Dubstep at 155 and retaining the subtlety and the funk and the VIBES that are the hallmarks of both genres at their finest, that will be the way forward i think... Those Autonomic podcasts are only a hint of what's to come in my opinion...

Shouts to anyone keeping it real, no love to those who sold their souls...

reptilian · Post by **reptilian** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:47 pm

ThinKing wrote:this is a completely absurd thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges

if superman and batman had a fight - who wud won ? / /

executive steve · Post by **executive steve** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:51 pm

Reptilian wrote:
ThinKing wrote:this is a completely absurd thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges
if superman and batman had a fight - who wud won ? / /

That depends - which one of them is the Junglist and which one is the Dubstepper?

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:14 pm

ThinKing wrote:this is a completely absurd thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges

Of course they can be compared!

if i'd said what's better dubstep or wheatgrass that would be totally different....or even dubstep or bluegrass....but these are two genres that attract a lot of the same people....and people frequently have compared the two on here and said all drum & bass is shit which is unbelievably ignorant given it's history..

I wanted to see a discussion.....sorry

four one · Post by **four one** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:20 pm

Well, Dubstep has crap intros and too much LFO.

reptilian · Post by **reptilian** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:38 pm

WAIT!!!!

I HAVE FOUND THE ANSWER WE HAVE ALL BEEN LOOKING FOR!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTCJ5hedcVA

step correct · Post by **step correct** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:40 pm

Same shit different decade?

executive steve · Post by **executive steve** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:53 pm

Four One wrote:Well, Dubstep has crap intros and too much LFO.

And drum and bass DOESN'T?

Thanks for playing though!

craig · Post by **craig** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:06 am

dubstep for me personally because of all the dnb out there, i don't like very much of it...subtle audio, scientific wax, photek, plug, paradox and a few others are all the dnb i listen to. whereas dubstep, theres so many different artists and styles i love..

bleep · Post by **bleep** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:48 am

Step Correct wrote:Same shit different decade?

this

mayorquimby · Post by **mayorquimby** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:56 am

there is more quality dubstep about than drum and bass. however the best dnb is better than the best dubstep, imo.

kuma · Post by **kuma** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:02 am

tuvan throat core for the win. Otherwise, STFU.

ST100 · Post by **ST100** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:20 am

dubstep, jungle, dn'b. all I need and I like them all equally.

this thread is shit.

nousd · Post by **nousd** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:12 am

core steppa is I
dnb tends to become too maniacally insistent
more choice of rythms to follow in ds.

(wrt the 5% of both which is worthy)

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:57 am

mattron wrote:
this thread is shit.

its got people talking

only threads i ever see from you are biggup threads

nousd · Post by **nousd** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:59 am

yeah, good thread Pistoff...

+ I likes my ds RAW.
Lot of stuff too cooked nowdays
which was essence of jungle > dnb prob.
Remember tha spirit 'a garage and 2step
with space in performance to add and break down shit.

provost · Post by **provost** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:45 am

AddicteDub wrote:
ThinKing wrote:this is a completely absurd thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges
End of discussion?

... or you could ask, 'better' at what exactly?

making people dance?
drum & bass, surely, because it's been doing this for 15+ years worldwide and continues to do so week in week out on a scale much bigger than dubstep has reached yet

making people think?
maybe dubstep atm, but only thanks to producers that keep evolving themselves and developing new sounds like mala, joker, martyn, untold etc
dbridge and instramental are among the few drum & bass producers operating on this level right now imo

making money for major record labels?
nowadays, dubstep clearly
(see La Roux, Skream, Gold Discs, Burial, Mercury, Snoop Dogg, etc etc)

but, why bother making the distinction? 'dubstep' and 'drum & bass' are both marketing terms and were invented so that people can sell you things

what's become increasingly apparent (with the likes of martyn, breakage, chase & status, instramental, ramadanman, even skream...) is that certain key people either are or have been involved in both scenes

executive steve · Post by **executive steve** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:32 am

provost wrote: but, why bother making the distinction? 'dubstep' and 'drum & bass' are both marketing terms and were invented so that people can sell you things

No they weren't?

dunza · Post by **dunza** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:44 am

jungle and dubstep ftw

wooda916 · Post by **wooda916** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:43 am

ThinKing wrote:this is a completely absurd thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges

why? Apples and oranges are differant things but you can still compare the taste...

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