Can you make it as an artist....

[lowpass]

bring a laptop and midi device, load up a your track minus a few parts and play 'em live,

bring an instrument, bass, guitar that sorta thing and jam to your tracks

this might limit you in some ways but it opens up the fact that your playing live so other places may be more inclined to have you play other than just clubs.

[RFID]

such a waste of time

HI I AM A NEW PERSON THAT ASKS A LAME QUESTION THAT I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO

fake user

[lowpass]

such a waste of time

HI I AM A NEW PERSON THAT ASKS A LAME QUESTION THAT I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO

fake user

what? guy asked a question in the production thread making me think he's I dunno a producer. Making music may be what this guy likes doing, he never really liked the idea of playing other peoples tunes out for cash. Or he may just plain suck on the decks.

If somebody loves creating music and makes good music then they shouldn't be denied the opportunity to share it live just because they don't wanna use decks.

I for one though am not that person and love my vinyl

[drift]

Making music may be what this guy likes doing, he never really liked the idea of playing other peoples tunes out for cash. Or he may just plain suck on the decks.

If somebody loves creating music and makes good music then they shouldn't be denied the opportunity to share it live just because they don't wanna use decks.

if an artist puts out 4 or 5 real good releases and starts getting the interest of promoters or agenices, and being offered £600(+) or so a gig ( UK ) im sure they will quickly warm to playing other peoples records. its getting paid to push forward your profile after all.



over the years ive heard many a producer be in so much demand that its financially stupid not to get up on the decks... even thought there intention was never to be a dj and just to write beats.

the fact they have no experience behind the decks has never stopped promoters booking them or them accepting gig offers. over time they get better ( sometimes ) and i imagine theres no regrets from either party as the artists been paid nicely and the promoters got headz through the door

got to be done, is, and has been for years...

i always like to think if i were in that position, i would wait till i was good enough to play out but when the offers are flying in and the life span of some peoples careers can be short, if theres mouths to feed at home, you gotta take every opportunity that comes your way...


morning : )

[lowpass]

oh yeah, forgot

- Dj'ing may be hard to get used to but keep at it and there is a lot of money to be made

- You may not need to play out live at all if you can make enough money through record sales (from what I know Burial hasn't played out before, he seems to be doing alright though)

[deadly_habit]

you can be a known producer and suck on the decks and still get gigs
seen it a million times
if you have established label releases people will want to book you over i just mix other peoples music local unknown dj
def get some practice in so its not gonna be a one shot booking though and you don't disappoint locals

[abZ]

Let's hear those 10/10 tunes you got fella

If you can make tunes then you can do an Ableton set. I would rather hear that than a big name trainwrecking all night. That can turn people off but it doesn't stop certain guys. If you are determined to learn how to beatmatch manually and all that, go for it. Shouldn't take more than a year to get decent. Then again some people have it and some people don't. I know several dj's that have been doing it for over 10 years that still suck. Give it up!

[hurlingdervish]

i'd rather hear a producer autosyncing his own songs with extra loops and slight remixing

than a producer beatmatching other peoples tunes

play your own music dammit

[deadly_habit]

i remember back in like 03-04 seeing pyro who is an ill producer but at the time using cds and was a sketchy dj at best
good show but dunno what he was paid
def a bunch of locals doing same stuff spinning same stuff that can spin better
personally i mean i'm a bit rusty on decks despite having a home setup due to work and just producing, hell last 2 gigs i had a couple bad wrecks
matter of practicing or for ableton heads you're good since you gen produce and such in it daily

[scooterjack]

It's not like DJing is rocket surgery.... might as well make that extra $$

[hurlingdervish]

Hey lets not get too pious about DJs they are the lifeblood of the scene ...
and they spend the money that pays the producer (well in an ideal world lol)

in an ideal world producers don't need dj's

if im paying money to see a producer i want to hear his songs. djing at a party is one thing, but if Martyn is on the bill, i want to hear Martyn, not three of his songs mixed with whatever else is popular at the time.

[hurlingdervish]

feel free to attack me on that but i do understand that a dedicated dj should cater to the audience

but we are talking about producers who dj

in which case playing their own songs IS catering to the audience

what if zeppelin came back and played covers of panic at the disco or something then only ended with dazed and confused

so fuck catering to people, thats what kills music

[abZ]

I know what you are saying Hurling but djing is a bit different from being a band. Even though it goes hand in hand, I like to keep them separate. I have actually had to force myself to play a tune or two of my own in sets. I still want to play what I want to play fuck it. Do you think the Stones enjoy performing Satisfaction for the 147,983th time? I pretty much hate my tunes by the time they are mastered. Last thing I want to do is dj them

[morro_e]

I pretty much hate my tunes by the time they are mastered

pretty much this, Adam is right. BUT

i am a Dj at first, and a fucking realist i know some peoples tunes are x1000 better than mine ones, but hell, when gals are bouncin on my own tune just after to say joker's one - i love it!

and else, for a dance music producer dj'ing skills *should* be essential