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Post by ascii » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:23 am

Why are you still amateur?
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Post by deepend » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:07 am

First of all, for all of you with just dumbass-worthless-questions, or really idiotic sense of humor, go back to the playground. When I first got introduced to dubstep, I fell in love to it as music, but aso to it's community-type-of thing - everyone sharing things - tips as a producer, tracks as an artist and feedback as a listener. Just pure positive vibes.

So this kinda threads are more than welcome, and from a guy like deadly habit, well.. big up mate! I think I havn't seen any thread, even one with allready-asked-1000-times-question, without deadly habit giving informative/helpfull tips & answers.

You have opportunity to ask things, so use it.

Q1: I really don't know do you use abbleton or not,
but is there a way to get numbers showing
in peaking meters ?
( Im so used to acid and it's numeric
display, that im kinda lost with abbleton, maybe I should use my ears, but..:) )

Q2: What is the most useful vst filter/eq out there, what are you using ?
Because im using acid's own, and I think that's not the best one.
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Post by jsilver » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:33 am

DEEPEND wrote: Q2: What is the most useful vst filter/eq out there, what are you using ?
Because im using acid's own, and I think that's not the best one.
:wink:
Sonalksis TBK Stereo is my go-to LP of choice

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Post by decree » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:37 am

HUGE UPS TO YOU!!!
im a fan
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Q1: What is your basic run down to Pusherman, what vst and tricks did you use on that bass and such (without giving too much away, I never like to know the exact way because when I get close I like to do my own flare to it)

Q2: What is your sub to BD/SD ratios in Ridin'
That is a great track! That whole EP is great and I am glad it got to be on bp

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seeing as how your a more veteran based around these forums can you tell me Q3: why is there no thread in this forum without someone being a complete dick (a lot of it is humorous but after a while it all becomes slightly pathetic)

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:11 pm

ASCII wrote:Why are you still amateur?
till i tour the uk or have a full length lp on wax i'll consider myself an amateur :wink:
even then i prolly still will cause i'm always learning

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:15 pm

DEEPEND wrote:First of all, for all of you with just dumbass-worthless-questions, or really idiotic sense of humor, go back to the playground. When I first got introduced to dubstep, I fell in love to it as music, but aso to it's community-type-of thing - everyone sharing things - tips as a producer, tracks as an artist and feedback as a listener. Just pure positive vibes.

So this kinda threads are more than welcome, and from a guy like deadly habit, well.. big up mate! I think I havn't seen any thread, even one with allready-asked-1000-times-question, without deadly habit giving informative/helpfull tips & answers.

You have opportunity to ask things, so use it.

Q1: I really don't know do you use abbleton or not,
but is there a way to get numbers showing
in peaking meters ?
( Im so used to acid and it's numeric
display, that im kinda lost with abbleton, maybe I should use my ears, but..:) )

Q2: What is the most useful vst filter/eq out there, what are you using ?
Because im using acid's own, and I think that's not the best one.
:wink:
sorry i've only dabbled a little bit in ableton, once i get more in depth with it i prolly could help. i primarily use cubase and renoise these days.

filters and eqs? i'm a sucker for fabfilter's stuff mainly simplon and volcano, i also love the filter emulation on my micron so sometimes will route stuff thru it's inputs. far as eqs i always seem to use the waves req even though it's not the greatest and for additive i love the urs stuff

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:20 pm

Decree wrote:HUGE UPS TO YOU!!!
im a fan
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Q1: What is your basic run down to Pusherman, what vst and tricks did you use on that bass and such (without giving too much away, I never like to know the exact way because when I get close I like to do my own flare to it)

Q2: What is your sub to BD/SD ratios in Ridin'
That is a great track! That whole EP is great and I am glad it got to be on bp

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seeing as how your a more veteran based around these forums can you tell me Q3: why is there no thread in this forum without someone being a complete dick (a lot of it is humorous but after a while it all becomes slightly pathetic)
actually if you search on here for an older thread i posted a close to breakdown on it but i think my process was
fm8>split into 2 busses, one just to boost the sub>other had some quadrafuzz, limiterand simplon filter on it and i hand drew all the modulations
basically everything people advise you not to do with bass i did in that tune and it was a fluke that it turned out that good

ridin the ratio before i sent it off to master on my orig mixdown i think was a pretty even db wise
i try to keep my kicks, sub and snare the same level on most tunes

yea thats just humanity and internet tough guyism :lol:

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:21 pm

since a couple bassline questions here is my general process: in cubase:
1.) open z3ta+ and initialize patch
2.) go thru default oscs till i find a simple base sound and warp to make it sound digital harshness or fm ish
3.) duplicate settings on another channel and use fine tune to detune a bit for phaser type sound
4.) another duplicated of orig either an osc up or down depending on how i wanna fill it out
5.) other remaining oscs pure sine at base oct level and/or -1 oct for sub pressure
6.) soft clipping distortion and reverb in fx section maybe some base eq work in z3ta+ and use the speaker emulation to taste all routed to filters
7.) link lfo synced to filter freq and set to taste on how you want modulated
8.) depending on sound i'm after will setup individual presend busses from original and make it 0 db
9.) enhance sub level and process other bands to taste
yet another bus sometimes presend sometimes quiet to compress and gel together
10.) use an automation lane to mess with lfo sync for more modulation, real easy and toss a bitcrusher over the top and do same with automation lane to automate downsampling rate
11.) ???
12.) bassline

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Post by hurlingdervish » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:28 pm

1. Do you A-B songs within cubase with the B song in a new track, or what
2.what happened in recent years that you didnt do before in the 15 years that go you a release
3. Do you have a vid camera/ screen capture? these kind of things would help a lot of people who don't know what they want to know. plus studio rundowns are just fun to watch.

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:34 pm

1 & 2) i used to use old hi-fi speakers that i had a good reference on and a-b'd in winamp actually my mixdowns using vst add on with span to compare, the big diff that helped me majorly was investing in real studio monitors and treatment, that and believing in myself and pushing tunes i didn't feel were the best due to anal standards about mixdowns and such to labels and them loving it
3.) yes for capture soft no besides phone video cam, one of these days i'm def gonna do a proper vid tutorial just wanna know what people want in it, otherwise prolly be like a 2hr of me getting drunk building a tune or programming patches

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Post by hurlingdervish » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:38 pm

Deadly Habit wrote: 3.) yes for capture soft no besides phone video cam, one of these days i'm def gonna do a proper vid tutorial just wanna know what people want in it, otherwise prolly be like a 2hr of me getting drunk building a tune or programming patches
hmmm winamp....

do it. make it a series.
each vid your a bit more drunk, so as the advice gets more complex its harder to understand...

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:44 pm

haha def man i'd prolly do a full unedited so be least a couple hrs long and involve going out for smokes etc lol
or edited quick vid like comp music masterclass hehe

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Post by abZ » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:38 pm

Some may not know that you use mainly hardware. That is quite an oddity in this day and time, especially for dubstep. Can you please explain why? What do you think the advantages are and how do you manage it all?

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:42 pm

well most of released shit mainly is soft generally my drums are cranked thru my akai s2000 for the converters which you can get quality analog gain off of up to +18 dbs
i dunno i work faster with knobs and faders on a board in front of me
most can be done in soft now close to what i do but i have a picky ear that orig gear gives me
hell next month a couple pieces coming in i have no room or inputs for on my soundcard
even the virtual analog synth i have like the micron has converters in it that beat alot of similar filters etc that just doesnt have the tone i want from it

short answer im a gear slut

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:46 pm

i mean even an old tape recorder offers slight flaws and options a plug like vintage warmer and such doesnt
true tape sat and touch tape for a sec flutter and an imperfection
i just love gear
soft you can't do the same misuse you can of hardware for classic sounds

btw anyone have an old tascam 4 chan tape multitrack i killed mine

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Post by deepend » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:39 am

Deadly Habit wrote:i mean even an old tape recorder offers slight flaws and options a plug like vintage warmer and such doesnt
true tape sat and touch tape for a sec flutter and an imperfection
i just love gear
soft you can't do the same misuse you can of hardware for classic sounds

btw anyone have an old tascam 4 chan tape multitrack i killed mine
You can get some nice sounds out of an old VCR player too :)
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Post by gorbek » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:49 am

If I want to look into getting a track released on a label... what steps do I try to take for them to consider my track? Is cold calling them literally the norm? Or do I need to get some connections or something?

I'm not there yet, may never be, but I'm just curious

Thanks man
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Post by JFK » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:38 pm

Eops wrote:Heres a couple for ya ...

How much of a frequency fascist are you? - do you really cut a hole for everything to get it sounding tight or is it done more organically than that?

I kinda asked the other day on that intensity - mediocrity thread but ...you make good solid bangers that stay intense - general tippage plz?


So you been round fe time - what was the best most creative period for you as a producer and what specifically did you take from that era/genre?

Big ups for letting us quiz ya and all that too - takes chutzpah!

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Much love for the q+a Deadly!!!

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