abletons workflow vs everything else

c03 · Post by **c03** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:55 pm

I've been using ableton for a few months now and getting to the stage where I don't feel like its a constant struggle just to get the beat thats in my head into the computer. Everything does seem to make sense and after a while you start to appreciate the flexibility of alot of the features. Don't have much experience with other DAWs (tried fruity for a bit but not seriously), but with a few VSTs and plugins and hundreds of hours sat in front of the computer I could see anybody with musical talent making releasable tunes in ableton.

rustie's psychedelic bleepy noises are wicked, one way to emulate this kind of thing is set up a synth with a few different waves (saw, square and a sine for eg) with different attack/decay etc envelopes which give it that woozy bleeping feel.

then stick an arpeggiator on the synth, and whack on some delays and filter's/phasers with lfos and shizzle, keep tweaking these for a while and drop in an 808 and you should have created a poor imitation of a rustie tune

Jah Billah · Post by **Jah Billah** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:02 pm

notch wrote:

ok bad analogy...
Ableton=Ferrari
Chick=reason, fruity loops
Drop that chick off and roll solo..
hoop that clears things up for you

Lemme see if I got it right then-
Ok here's the ting:
this one chick (FL) she real easy man I just rub her some & she's good to go ya know? And this other chick (Reason) is soooo sexy just makes you kinda drool. But yeah I don't drive around with those two all day every day sometimes I just enjoy myself in mi ferrari (Ableton).
Analogy aside, I use FL for drums & Reason for melody/instruments while Ableton as master rewire is used to mix/dub. Just the way I do it nobody else need to go there if they don't want to.

86. · Post by **86.** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:49 pm

Jah Billah wrote:
notch wrote:

ok bad analogy...
Ableton=Ferrari
Chick=reason, fruity loops
Drop that chick off and roll solo..
hoop that clears things up for you

Lemme see if I got it right then-
Ok here's the ting:
this one chick (FL) she real easy man I just rub her some & she's good to go ya know? And this other chick (Reason) is soooo sexy just makes you kinda drool. But yeah I don't drive around with those two all day every day sometimes I just enjoy myself in mi ferrari (Ableton).
Analogy aside, I use FL for drums & Reason for melody/instruments while Ableton as master rewire is used to mix/dub. Just the way I do it nobody else need to go there if they don't want to.

you rewire FL into Ableton? or Reason into Ableton

adam_john · Post by **adam_john** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:00 pm

I love ableton.

The workflow is fantastic, in my opinion. Being able to resample right in the same program without having to export is a HUGE plus for me.

The drumrack and instrument racks are equally bad ass - the fx chains are sick. The sound engine is nice, and being able to use one program to write tunes AND get them prepped for live shows is another huge plus.

I made the move over from reason and have no regrets. I'm able to do much more in Ableton, and in a faster amount of time.

Thats just barely scratching the surface of why i like the program. I'm still saving up so I can buy Live 8 Suite.

Compared to FL and Reason, it does have a bit of a learning curve, but once you get over that - you'll see how sweet the program is. I really can't get enough of it - saves me from having to work in 3-4 programs at once. I can't compare it to Logic or Cubase though since I have not used either of those in a LOOONNNG fucking time.

notch · Post by **notch** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:51 pm

Jah Billah wrote:
notch wrote:

ok bad analogy...
Ableton=Ferrari
Chick=reason, fruity loops
Drop that chick off and roll solo..
hoop that clears things up for you

Lemme see if I got it right then-
Ok here's the ting:
this one chick (FL) she real easy man I just rub her some & she's good to go ya know? And this other chick (Reason) is soooo sexy just makes you kinda drool. But yeah I don't drive around with those two all day every day sometimes I just enjoy myself in mi ferrari (Ableton).
Analogy aside, I use FL for drums & Reason for melody/instruments while Ableton as master rewire is used to mix/dub. Just the way I do it nobody else need to go there if they don't want to.

It's hard to break away from the nipple I understand.

Jah Billah · Post by **Jah Billah** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:02 am

86 Position wrote:
you rewire FL into Ableton? or Reason into Ableton

Rewiring both FL & Reason into Ableton.

freq juggler · Post by **freq juggler** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:13 am

Cubase 5 all the time!

freq juggler · Post by **freq juggler** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:58 am

Lurq wrote:Basically if you want to work in a non-conventional ass hat backward way, regurgitate the company's line all over the internets, then ableton is for you.

Oooo look at me, I use a DAW that looks like a bunch of kid blocks made by phisher price. I'm so different and creative.

Gotta say plus 1 here..

rekall · Post by **rekall** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:59 am

i never thought i'd find anything as dead-simple as fruitytracks (not fruityloops; dead product by same guys)
now that i've spent a couple of days in ableton's arrange view, there's no going back to anything else. not even cubase.

as for renoise/other next-gen trackers -- if i never see another column of hexidecimal parameter edits ever again it'll be too soon
(i tracked for kosmic/kfmf from '94 to '97 as theHacker)

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