Fat birds.

bright maroon · Post by **bright maroon** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:36 pm

In squirrel life there is a food heirarchy...it goes

cashew
almond-peanut
brazil nut
walnut-pecan-hazelnut-pistachio
animal crackers
sunflower
pumpkin seed

raisin
apples-grapes
kiwi
plum
corn
watermelon

banana chow
hamster cookies
millet

They refuse to eat carrots..They toss the carrots like frisbees..
They're supposed to eat the beans and split pea but I have never seen it..

Could be the rats polishing them off at night...

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:38 pm

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:40 pm

bright maroon wrote:In squirrel life there is a food heirarchy...it goes

cashew
almond-peanut
brazil nut
walnut-pecan-hazelnut-pistachio
animal crackers
sunflower
pumpkin seed

raisin
apples-grapes
kiwi
plum
corn
watermelon

banana chow
hamster cookies
millet

you should publish a socioecoNOM-ic paper on squirrel's favorite thing to nom.

::g-sus:: · Post by **::g-sus::** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:46 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:socioecoNOM-ic

BNanni · Post by **BNanni** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:11 pm

Here is a question for you fellas.

What size do you consider fat?
What do you consider curvy?

As a girl i'm (really) self consious when it comes to my weight and how men may view my body.

Is skinny the way forward?

Coppola · Post by **Coppola** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:16 pm

BNanni wrote: Is skinny the way forward?

No!

hurlingdervish · Post by **hurlingdervish** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:16 pm

BNanni wrote:
Is skinny the way forward?

skinny is the way backward.

the acid never lies · Post by **the acid never lies** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:17 pm

curvy > skinny

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:18 pm

The Acid Never Lies wrote:curvy > skinny

This.

BNanni · Post by **BNanni** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:19 pm

So what size is a good size?
What do you personally consider too skinny?

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:20 pm

bright maroon wrote:I disagree - they type of physical activity you are involved with over long stretches of time determines the nature of your physique...example - If I were at leisure to do pilates for a year or 2 - I would be long and lean...In my particular case, I have been lifting wooden pallets and boxes for 15 years so I have stupidly buff shoulders for a girl..which I personally find repulsive...

I don't think you quite get it. Yes, physical activity and feeding behavior (eating lots of healthy fats and using fat as your main fuel rather than carbs hardens your muscles more) change your appearance: to a certain degree.

A tall and skinny person with lean muscles (mostly consisting of endurance muscles) with a fast metabolism can become strong and muscular (through A LOT OF WORK, a lot more than an average person), but will never be able to compete in a 'strong man' competition.

Also, everyone's born with a certain muscle type. There's two types of muscle tissue and everyone has a unique mixture of them. 1) endurance muscle 2) strength. People are born with a certain mixture that is unique to them. Yes, through lifestyle you can change your overall appearance. But you cannot change your muscle type and not your bone structure. Everyone pretty much agrees that people have a basic body type to work with which they can develop, but not change. And every body type has its restrictions. If a person born with endurance muscle and a person born with strength were to go through the same childhood and same training and diet and were to compete in a marathon in 30 years, the person with more 'endurance' type muscle would still win. No matter how much both train for endurance.

You're kinda arguing against the scientific consensus here. Hell, even assholes that peddle crappy hometrainers on TV will tell you this, even if it means that what they're selling is a lie.

I've been working out for... 4 years now. Went from skinny to really muscular to sorta average, but the first thing I learned was that I can't temper with what nature gave me. Just work with it. 4 years after I lifted my first weight and went from skinny, to huge, to average, I noticed that my muscles are still shaped the same way and my bones are still in place. They're just expressed differently because the amount of fat and muscle has changed. But if you'd go back in time, kill me then and kill the current me and compared skeletons, you wouldn't see any difference in physique.

bright maroon wrote:When I was little, I used to run with my dog all the time and my build was completely different..

Everyone's built is different when they're little.

bright maroon wrote:When I chain smoked and rammed bong hits all night - my physique was different..

Your bone structure wasn't. Like, 75% of the stuff you're saying here isn't even relevant to anything I said.

bright maroon wrote:It's just like that miraculous rock climbing champion girl who spent her formative years following a pet monkey up into the trees - scientists have studied her body and have determined that proportionatly, her body - especially her forearms have developed like those of a monkey - AND, not just structural and mechanically, but chemically as well - something about the way she metabolizes her food - differs greatly from a standard human...

Prove to me that if she had been born with a different body type, she would look exactly the way she does now

bright maroon wrote:You body is plastic though - don't blame people for being cast in roles...behind desks - confined to office spaces...or houses even..

I used to be fat, now I'm not. I'm not because I stopped thinking that way. People don't sit behind desks and do nothing because they're forced to. They choose to. All it takes is 30 hours of exercise per day to be healthy. 30 minutes. Fat people are fat because of their own actions. I don't mind it. If people are happy with that lifestyle, I have no disrespect for them at all. I don't respect it when people are fat and complain about it and blame anything but themselves, though.

bright maroon wrote:Having a taste for chips doesn't make you a poor candidate for breeding..

Nope, but being morbidly obese does.

bright maroon wrote:Your chosing to like only skinny people because you want to.

I like non obese people because a big gut and double chins turn me off.

Define 'skinny'? I'm into big asses and big hips and small/average boobs.

bright maroon wrote:2 more points -

1 - I live up in the tree tops with a huge clan of squirrels who eat on my window ledge - I have been feeding and studying them since last Nov. and I can tell you for a fact...without a doubt 100% of the time - they will bypass a huge pile of awesome fruit to get at the nuts everytime...They were starting to get fat. Not too wize on the squirrels part - I had to switch them off to fortified rodent food as to not make them into the prairie dogs that they are...

Because their instinct tells them to get all the nuts they can, nuts that are relatively rare in their natural environment. You're exposing them to an unnatural situation, a situation that doesn't correspond with the way their instincts evolved. Like putting a cactus in a swamp. Same with people. 'Laziness' isn't bad from an evolutionary standpoint, it's conserving energy. However, since modern society doesn't correspond with living in Kenya ca 200 thousand years ago,

bright maroon wrote:2 - I am trying to lose weight by greatly adjusting my portions - and I have learned 2 very poignant things about models and anorexics - Why models do cocaine..and why anorexics abuse laxatives...

It's not because they are most suitable for babies.

Nope it's because:

1) Models are in the fashion industry, an industry that is controlled by gay men. They mostly pick the most androgynous women to show off their designs (except for lingerie models, who's curves are preferred to show off the lingerie, like Adriana Lima). According to polling, fashion models are less than desired by men as far as appearance goes and this completely corresponds with my previous post, where I said that men look for feminine curves and as I said (which is what my whole post basically said), curves are defined by bone structure, not fat. While some fat and muscle can help define that bone structure, a woman like Cameron Diaz will never have have a body like this. The bones simply aren't there and they won't expand another 5 inches just like that.
2) People with anorexia nervosa have a psychological disorder related with OCD. Different situation.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:24 pm

BNanni wrote:So what size is a good size?
What do you personally consider too skinny?

Any size is good as long as a girl isn't massively overweight or ridiculously underweight.

and Keria Knightley is what I'd call too skinny.

Photoshop is awesome.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:31 pm

Genevieve wrote:this

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:34 pm

bandshell wrote:
Genevieve wrote:this

Exactly, mayne. Bootyful =0 And she's not nearly overweight or obese or anythang. That's where the curves lie. THAT'S WHERE THE CURVES LIE. >_0, the bones.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:39 pm

Genevieve wrote:
bandshell wrote:
Genevieve wrote:this

Exactly, mayne. Bootyful =0 And she's not nearly overweight or obese or anythang. That's where the curves lie. THAT'S WHERE THE CURVES LIE. >_0, the bones.

Who is that?

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:41 pm

bandshell wrote:
Genevieve wrote:
bandshell wrote:
Genevieve wrote:this

Exactly, mayne. Bootyful =0 And she's not nearly overweight or obese or anythang. That's where the curves lie. THAT'S WHERE THE CURVES LIE. >_0, the bones.
Who is that?

It's a photoshopped picture of Alexis Texas. Her ass/legs are amazing like that, but her face isn't much like that picture.

She has a big ol' booty. o_o

bright maroon · Post by **bright maroon** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:57 pm

to genevieve

In your original post it sounded as if you were flatly calling overweight people biological failures...

But now it seems that you are accusing them of failing to circumvent the swamp that is our current environment...

I took the only job that was offered me...the only numerous jobs that were offered me...and they all involved moving large amounts of product..so yeah..I could have just forgone my apt. and car and just went back to parents to spend 6 hours running around the neighborhood with my dog - sure that was my choice...that I didn't chose

- I chose the job that kept me confined and lifting in excessive unnatural ways..came home after 12 hour shift and sat on internet...

Yeah I ate a fucking donut EVERYNIGHT on the car ride home...the vegan sprout palace was not convienently located to my particular airtransport center (nor was I motivated to go there)...Besides - If I had to eat an apple after that bullshit I would have just been completely suicidal...and for sure I DID NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SEX...

I'm not mad at you or anything like that - I just don't care..about jumping up to impress some guy, superfiscially...not after that day..not after any of those days..my back is bent as fuck..I sure wasn't doing pilates for hours..

so maybe we are both missing some psychological aspect of fitness...

the me not giving a fuck and the you wanting the genetically superior offspring - because it is a reflection of correct ambition or something.

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:11 am

bright maroon wrote:to genevieve

In your original post it sounded as if you were flatly calling overweight people biological failures...

But now it seems that you are accusing them of failing to circumvent the swamp that is our current environment...

I took the only job that was offered me...the only numerous jobs that were offered me...and they all involved moving large amounts of product..so yeah..I could have just forgone my apt. and car and just went back to parents to spend 6 hours running around the neighborhood with my dog - sure that was my choice...that I didn't chose

- I chose the job that kept me confined and lifting in excessive unnatural ways..came home after 12 hour shift and sat on internet...

Yeah I ate a fucking donut EVERYNIGHT on the car ride home...the vegan sprout palace was not convienently located to my particular airtransport center (nor was I motivated to go there)...Besides - If I had to eat an apple after that bullshit I would have just been completely suicidal...and for sure I DID NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SEX...

I'm not mad at you or anything like that - I just don't care..about jumping up to impress some guy, superfiscially...not after that day..not after any of those days..my back is bent as fuck..I sure wasn't doing pilates all day..

so maybe we are both missing some psychological aspect of fitness...

the me not giving a fuck and the you wanting the genetically superior offspring - because it is a reflection of correct ambition or something.

I just said that the idealism of non-obesity in human culture has its origins in sexual selection, not conditioning. Obesity is a signifier of an unhealthy lifestyle, something humans usually don't like to see passed on into the next generation -- people want to breed with the healthiest, most fertile members of the opposite sex. I don't consciously go around looking for girls to give birth to my children, but my sexual preference is shaped by that desire.

chester perry · Post by **chester perry** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:12 am

BNanni wrote:Here is a question for you fellas.

What size do you consider fat?
What do you consider curvy?

As a girl i'm (really) self consious when it comes to my weight and how men may view my body.

Is skinny the way forward?

Marilyn Monroe was a size 16 one of my ex's was a size 14 and the 14 looked fatter. All comes down to how you carry it, me i think size 10-12 is a good look. Not too skinny but no cankles of bingo wings.

bright maroon · Post by **bright maroon** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:17 am

so porn, I mean beauty industry is the future - all waxing parlors and fitness...

Gas Chromatography and Mass Spectrometry machines will not get their repair kits as I will be spray tanning...no books or music from amazon.

I could be ok with that...pay me at what point...I man the desk at the spa for 2 hours, get paid for 8...then do the aerobics class with everyone - once they are all checked in..? Avacado and lemon for lunch..

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