DJ Whistla wrote:Joe C wrote:gav, do you have a tape player, Ill make you an emo tape.
emo is basically a chaotic offshoot of Hardcore, it's kinda meant to be ultra melodic and ultra noisy at once, that's about as stylistic as you can explain
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ok so what defines "hardcore" seeing as to me hardcore = hoovers, pianos, breakbeats and sub.
is it just punk? or whats the diff from punk? (except the obvious lack of mohicans)
Hardcore has different meanings depending on context. In hip-hop it's Onyx, in electronic music it's breakbeat hardcore/rave or hardcore techno and yeah.. in rock music it's hardcore punk.
Basically punk but.. more hardcore. There's a number of subgenres of hardcore punk:
*..Hardcore punk - basically the standard stuff. Black Flag? Minor Threat? Bad Brains? Shit everyone knows, basically. Nothing inherently wrong with it.
*Thrashcore - hardcore but even faster... though early on in the history of hardcore punk, hardcore and 'thrash' were used synonymously. Bands like Siege, Larm, Seein'Red, Gauze, Hellnation, Jellyroll Rockheads...
*Grindcore - short songs, a grinding guitar sound, shouted or growled lyrics, was first played by a Dutch hardcore punk band called Larm. Was popularized by the metal influenced band Napalm Death, who got attention from the metal scene, so since then, fast death metal is wrongfully called grind as well. Some key bands: Cyanamid, Larm, Napalm Death, Denak, Despise You, Fear Of God, Impetigo, Insect Warfare
*Powerviolence - a very dynamic type of hardcore, can go from slow/sludgy riffs to 240 bpms within a second. Was first played by a band called Infest, name was coined by Eric Wood from Man Is the Bastard and the style was popularized by Spazz. Mostly a west coast/'90s thing, but it's being played again by a new wave of hardcore punk bands from the USA.
*Crust punk - originally played by Amebix, a noisy style of hardcore punk influenced by metal
*Japanese hardcore - kinda vague, especially since this can be characterized by two different types of punk bands. Basically, there is stuff like GISM, who played Judas Priest influenced hardcore punk. There's also Confuse.. I guess you can call it 'noise punk' if you will, it's noisy as fuck, thin, harsh guitar feedback replaces powerful guitars as lead instrument. That's the main types of Japanese hardcore. Both are amazing.
*D-beat - Discharge and every band that sounds like them. Has a distinctive drumbeat style called.. yes, a D-beat.
*NYHC - From.. NY, largely metal influenced (some shit classified as NYHC is more tough guy metal than anything, I'd say). Shouted lyrics, lots of focus on groove and breakdowns. Cro-Mags, Agnostic Front, etc. Not the biggest fan of the style myself.
Some key bands:
Gauze
Hellnation
Insect Warfare
Confuse
And my favorite punk band from my favorite punk scene:
Capitalist Casualties
Emo, post-hardcore and math rock evolved out of DC style hardcore (from Washington DC, centered around the Dischord label) and early on, those 3 styles were pretty similar. Mostly, emo is hardcore in attitude rather than style. Punk played by kids who were sick of playing punk, if you will. More dynamic, more structured, more melodic. Clean singing (or 'poor attempts' at it -- which sounded endearing, I'd say) wasn't uncommon either. You can tell when you hear emo mostly by the dynamics and chord progressions.
