Chase & Status + Rihanna

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:08 pm

smdroccity wrote:
wasteman wrote:Haters.

Seriously, there producers, anyone who makes beats is a fucking dickhead if they say they wouldn't work with Rihanna given half a chance.

Why as a producer would you not want to try something different and try making some pop with one of the biggest stars on the planet? Not to mention she's fly as fuck and recently single.

On the monetary side, I've studied and I work my ass off to make as much money as I can, if I were a talented producer why wouldn't I use that skill to also make money?

But capitalisms evil and OMG burial was on top gear!!!!!!!!!11
yes to this 100%

yeah man totally!

music is all about monies for sure...anyone that makes it for the love is a douchebag...

they will probably get to fuck her too like you say as they're making music with her...

obviously anyone that wouldn't work with her/think she's shit is a commie bastard...

and also it's bound to be well different whatever they come up with as major labels have a proven track record of promoting innovation over stagnation

foreal

smdroccity · Post by **smdroccity** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:16 pm

Piston wrote:
smdroccity wrote:
wasteman wrote:Haters.

Seriously, there producers, anyone who makes beats is a fucking dickhead if they say they wouldn't work with Rihanna given half a chance.

Why as a producer would you not want to try something different and try making some pop with one of the biggest stars on the planet? Not to mention she's fly as fuck and recently single.

On the monetary side, I've studied and I work my ass off to make as much money as I can, if I were a talented producer why wouldn't I use that skill to also make money?

But capitalisms evil and OMG burial was on top gear!!!!!!!!!11
yes to this 100%
yeah man totally!

music is all about monies for sure...anyone that makes it for the love is a douchebag...

they will probably get to fuck her too like you say as they're making music with her...

obviously anyone that wouldn't work with her/think she's shit is a commie bastard...

and also it's bound to be well different whatever they come up with as major labels have a proven track record of promoting innovation over stagnation

foreal

open your mind bud

it is a good sign imo, that producers such as CnS are being saught after by pop stars

Chase and Status make music, they aren't lyricists, I wouldn't call this selling out at all; it's not like an emcee that blows up making underground hiphop and then when he's signed starts rapping about hoes bling bling clubs and guns; fact is they have an opportunity to put their sound in front of the masses

where do you see bad in this; please no sarcasm...honestly, I'm trying to understand your point of view

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:35 pm

open your mind bud

my mind is open...given that i listen to any genre of music if it's good...unfortunately the audience this is aimed at doesn't so will need to be increasingly pigeonholed

it is a good sign imo, that producers such as CnS are being saught after by pop stars

you think rihanna was rocking their shit and decided to look them up?

you don't think this is all about mutual promotion and credibility being boosted

Chase and Status make music, they aren't lyricists, I wouldn't call this selling out at all; it's not like an emcee that blows up making underground hiphop and then when he's signed starts rapping about hoes bling bling clubs and guns; fact is they have an opportunity to put their sound in front of the masses

what?

so you're saying the only way a musician can compromise is by changing their lyrics?

their sound will be whatever the label tweaks it to be...they will have very little control

where do you see bad in this; please no sarcasm...honestly, I'm trying to understand your point of view

It's not bad on a global scale as i'm not hugely bothered and have more than enough good music to be going on with...i just find it hilarious how anyone that slates it is automatically a hater...it's also hilarious how everything can be justified by money...

smdroccity · Post by **smdroccity** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:49 pm

Piston wrote:
open your mind bud
my mind is open...given that i listen to any genre of music if it's good...unfortunately the audience this is aimed at doesn't so will need to be increasingly pigeonholed

it is a good sign imo, that producers such as CnS are being saught after by pop stars
you think rihanna was rocking their shit and decided to look them up?

you don't think this is all about mutual promotion and credibility being boosted

Chase and Status make music, they aren't lyricists, I wouldn't call this selling out at all; it's not like an emcee that blows up making underground hiphop and then when he's signed starts rapping about hoes bling bling clubs and guns; fact is they have an opportunity to put their sound in front of the masses
what?

so you're saying the only way a musician can compromise is by changing their lyrics?

their sound will be whatever the label tweaks it to be...they will have very little control

where do you see bad in this; please no sarcasm...honestly, I'm trying to understand your point of view
It's not bad on a global scale as i'm not hugely bothered and have more than enough good music to be going on with...i just find it hilarious how anyone that slates it is automatically a hater...it's also hilarious how everything can be justified by money...

all very good points, but really at this stage it's all hearsay and bullshit; I'm interested to hear what the actual audio sounds like before any true judgment is made

I am under the impression they will be giving CnS full creative control on their production, since that is why they are so well liked, is their sound; I don't think the execs will be tweaking it much

monstaman · Post by **monstaman** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:53 pm

Chase and Status are getting huge! And to think only a couple of years ago i was sitting at the back of bus skanking to Dumplin Riddim on my lonesome.

Now even my Mum gets dancing when she hears Smash Tv

Congrats Will and Saul

tacospheros · Post by **tacospheros** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:58 pm

unless this tune has sub bass and wicked amens i dont give a shit

rihanna fuckin sucks too btw . just to clear that up . its not about the music , but a nice fat check didnt look too bad so whatever.

aftee · Post by **aftee** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:17 pm

If you get a chance to make a shitload of money and you take it, you're human. If you completely stop making the music that you used to/like making to make nothing but the new sound that is pulling you in money, you're a sellout.

You can still make money from music while being a musician. If you make nothing but what other people tell you to make you are merely a business man.

You can't tell if somebody is being a "sellout" just by taking a few deals to make some cash. If it's all you see being released from them in the future then it's a different story.

As for the track at hand...if it's planned to be released as a single or get any major play I'm sure it will sound just like every other pop beat out there, this should not be in the "dubstep" section of these forums.

When dubstep tracks start getting used as background-music for hip hop songs and etc. it'll lose all of what makes it enjoyable...just dumbed-down shit chopped into a pre-set song format with a 2:1 verse/hook bar format.

mattrelton · Post by **mattrelton** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:20 pm

Anyone else think its hilarious that people can have a 4 page argument about a song before they've even heard it?
Wait for the tune to come out, then decide how much you like the music, not how much you think they are/aren't selling out

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:41 pm

mattrelton wrote:Anyone else think its hilarious that people can have a 4 page argument about a song before they've even heard it?
Wait for the tune to come out, then decide how much you like the music, not how much you think they are/aren't selling out

yeah man totttaly hilarious!

maybe the issue at hand isn't the song though and the actions of individuals and critiquing the responses to said individuals actions that are being discussed rather than the music?

maybe having heard rihanna and chase & status people could form a somewhat qualified view?

maybe it's not the same as peoples views on throat singing when they haven't heard any at all

maybe...

mattrelton · Post by **mattrelton** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:56 pm

Piston wrote:
mattrelton wrote:Anyone else think its hilarious that people can have a 4 page argument about a song before they've even heard it?
Wait for the tune to come out, then decide how much you like the music, not how much you think they are/aren't selling out
yeah man totttaly hilarious!

maybe the issue at hand isn't the song though and the actions of individuals and critiquing the responses to said individuals actions that are being discussed rather than the music?

maybe having heard rihanna and chase & status people could form a somewhat qualified view?

maybe it's not the same as peoples views on throat singing when they haven't heard any at all

maybe...

Ye but you never know what people will come out with. It just seems a shame to right-off a tune before you've even heard it.

Its like people aren't letting themselves like the music, just because they don't like previous stuff put out by the artist.

I'm sure before Run dmc and Aerosmith collaborated they got a lot of stick from devout rock/hip-hop fans. But that tune turned into a classic and has been around for years.

By the way, I'm not saying that C&S and Rihanna are going to make and endless classic, I'm just using 2 unlikely artist who collaborated as an example

boogiemeister · Post by **boogiemeister** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:02 pm

it's a great opportunity for them, why shouldn't they jump at the chance afer all? I'll wait for the song and then decide if it's good or not. The world was also in outrage when it was announced that Premo was to work with Christina Aguilera and Premier proved all the haters wrong and just did good music, in fact some of that stuff was among his best work in years and I'm as far from a Christina Aguilera fan as it gets.
Caspa remixed Depeche Mode, Skream remixed Dave Gahan, Benga remixed Faithless... nobody was hating on them for that either

your mum · Post by **your mum** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:38 pm

rihanna shouldn't lower herself to working with them

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:42 pm

your mum wrote:rihanna shouldn't lower herself to working with them

lmao

ghosttown · Post by **ghosttown** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:54 pm

i would do the same thing if i was them.

kman2025 · Post by **kman2025** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:05 pm

lol to all the haters. Who would realistically turn down this offer? There's a lot of money to be made and whilst Chase & Status are certainly making far more than the average dubstep guy, they don't have so much that they can turn down this kind of thing.

There's always the danger that they fully sell out and only start doing things like this which would be fucked up, but the mere fact they're working with Rhianna isn't reason to be hating.

Working with people like Jay-Z, who Rhianna is closely tied with, is an honour. Yeh, the shit he puts out now is garbage, but for any old-school Hip-hop heads, he is a legend on the scene.

egoless · Post by **egoless** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:16 pm

Aftee wrote:When dubstep tracks start getting used as background-music for hip hop songs and etc. it'll lose all of what makes it enjoyable...just dumbed-down shit chopped into a pre-set song format with a 2:1 verse/hook bar format.

So what? If that makes all these kids here that are doing wobbles in Massive to jump the "dumbed-down shit chopped into a pre-set format with a 2:1 verse/hook bar format hip hop style" that only shows the seriousness of their music adventure...

I can easily recognize true musical talents from the overwhelming number of producers nowdays, and I am 100% sure that none of them will ever do just-because-it's-popular shit & copycat music...

Good music will never fade away, dubstep is just one small station in an infinite ride...

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:22 pm

Kman2025 wrote:lol to all the haters. Who would realistically turn down this offer? There's a lot of money to be made and whilst Chase & Status are certainly making far more than the average dubstep guy, they don't have so much that they can turn down this kind of thing.

There's always the danger that they fully sell out and only start doing things like this which would be fucked up, but the mere fact they're working with Rhianna isn't reason to be hating.

Working with people like Jay-Z, who Rhianna is closely tied with, is an honour. Yeh, the shit he puts out now is garbage, but for any old-school Hip-hop heads, he is a legend on the scene.

i don't think anyone is saying they would turn down the offer

they're just saying it will most probably be shit...and jay-z isn't a legend on the scene to myself and rather a lot of people that like hip-hop

fuck it man i would probably do it for a lump sum but i'd feel soulless at the same time.....does everyone have to happy and positive because some people are going to get rich doing pop?

it doesn't figure at all tbh

i personally don't see why on an artistic level working with rihanna would be of benefit to anyone...it would appear to just be about cash....which is fine i guess....but why does every fanboy on here insist on defending them from criticism?

promo · Post by **promo** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:28 pm

Woopy fuckin' doo.

promo · Post by **promo** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:30 pm

UshUshNZ wrote:
spiderman wrote:gd look for them
This. Just so long as they don't forget their roots.

Sure, if you call their roots making crap music then yeah I don't think they'll forget them.

promo · Post by **promo** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:31 pm

dux wrote:respect for this... truely amazing!
i would love to have rihana in the studio too

Blowing on your whistle maybe?

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