someone educate me about DMZ

swed-1- · Post by **swed-1-** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:53 pm

ive only recently been getting into the scene and even getting into it ive only gone so far as the real jump up side of dubstep Rusko, jakes, Caspa etc....but recently i have become particularly fascinated with the shit mala and coki etc produce through their label DMZ

i think its good for people like me and others who are young or just dont no much about the label...like for example...how come their vinyl is so rare? whats the reason behind this....when or is their even going to be another DMZ vinyl coming out? When was DMZ created? etc etc

A lot of people i know and i could count myself are a little bit naive about dubstep and sort of just link the best dubstep artist to that of Rusko who is pushing the scene in different ways but i think it would be good to understand a bit more about some of the guys who really kick started this scene so that newcomers dont forget where it all started.

anywho if you even care about this let me know some thoughts...if not then fair

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:18 pm

welcome! its a tricky one to describe what dmz is as its a lot of things to so many people. i'll just give you a framework here in brief.

dmz first and foremost is a movement, and then its a group of friends and record label. i say movement, because they've had such a big influence on not only this scene, but more so for london soundsystem culture. it started out years ago, 4 people working together as a crew. mala, coki, loefah and MC sgt pokes. in 2005 they started a night in brixton, with a bunch of their friends in the lineup. that quickly grew into a very successful night, and over the years its become a massive party. the label obviously supports and pushes the worldwide reach they have as a soundsystem. every march, they throw a birthday night.

you have to see these...
http://vimeo.com/2314557
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fldGASUC6Ww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8cKAXLTc6o
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/vide ... erfection/

read these as well...
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2 ... jus-b.html
http://drumzofthesouth.blogspot.com/200 ... kz_23.html

computer rock · Post by **computer rock** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:49 pm

As to why DMZ releases are quite rare/ expensive it basically comes down to supply and demand:

Firstly The plates for dmz001 and 002 have been lost iirc so they are never getting repressed.

Secondly Mala's attitude towards repressing the back catalogue seems to be 'less is more'. In an interview I saw with him he gave the impression that the music is a very personal thing to him and that the mass distribution (ie endless represses) of his music turns it into a commodity and therefore cheapens it. He said this with reference to anti-war dub which is never getting a repress.

Having said this DMZ plates do sometimes get repressed, but never enough to fully satisfy what is a massive demand for the music.

edit- oh yea, there's a massive demand for the music because it's all HEAVY.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:59 pm

swed-1- wrote: A lot of people i know and i could count myself are a little bit naive about dubstep and sort of just link the best dubstep artist to that of Rusko who is pushing the scene in different ways but i think it would be good to understand a bit more about some of the guys who really kick started this scene so that newcomers dont forget where it all started.

its important to keep looking for all the diversity in this sound. some of the most powerful voices in this music, get overlooked, simply for the fact that they don't have the established name yet. download as many mixes as you can, and try and listen to the online radio channels. its not an easy music to digest quickly, which is only a good thing.

feral witchchild · Post by **feral witchchild** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:36 pm

I would seriously die happy if "Heartless Ninja" were out.

s2y2t · Post by **s2y2t** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:43 pm

Big up!

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:35 pm

Very off topic but one guy Im missing is D1, not heard any new beats from the guy in time. Even going back through his older stuff the guys beats are still up there with the best of em!

For The Win Records · Post by **For The Win Records** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:38 pm

swed-1- wrote:ive only recently been getting into the scene and even getting into it ive only gone so far as the real jump up side of dubstep Rusko, jakes, Caspa etc....but recently i have become particularly fascinated with the shit mala and coki etc produce through their label DMZ

i think its good for people like me and others who are young or just dont no much about the label...like for example...how come their vinyl is so rare? whats the reason behind this....when or is their even going to be another DMZ vinyl coming out? When was DMZ created? etc etc

A lot of people i know and i could count myself are a little bit naive about dubstep and sort of just link the best dubstep artist to that of Rusko who is pushing the scene in different ways but i think it would be good to understand a bit more about some of the guys who really kick started this scene so that newcomers dont forget where it all started.

anywho if you even care about this let me know some thoughts...if not then fair

this is honestly one of the best posts I have scene on this forum. Big up for wanting the education.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:38 pm

Horza wrote:Very off topic but one guy Im missing is D1, not heard any new beats from the guy in time. Even going back through his older stuff the guys beats are still up there with the best of em!

he's got a new release coming soon.

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:44 pm

bandshell wrote:
Horza wrote:Very off topic but one guy Im missing is D1, not heard any new beats from the guy in time. Even going back through his older stuff the guys beats are still up there with the best of em!
he's got a new release coming soon.

...Mate... you are a babe! nice one haha

For The Win Records · Post by **For The Win Records** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:46 pm

I also think at 2.40 minutes in this video explains the night, the sound, the movement, just by one tune, one reaction, one vibe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIo8fuG7sAE

swed-1- · Post by **swed-1-** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:51 pm

cheers for the responses...i am intrigued, and will definetly attempt to broaden my knowledge of dubstep and all the different aspects surrounding it

swed-1- · Post by **swed-1-** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:55 pm

[quote="computer rock"]As to why DMZ releases are quite rare/ expensive it basically comes down to supply and demand:

Firstly The plates for dmz001 and 002 have been lost iirc so they are never getting repressed.

quote]

im confused actually when you say lost what do you mean? we live in the 21st century i would of thought i would be fairly easy to make one or two tunes into dubplates especially seeing as you can download Haunted off limewire ! but again i wouldnt know a thing...so care to delve further?

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:06 pm

swed-1- wrote:
computer rock wrote:As to why DMZ releases are quite rare/ expensive it basically comes down to supply and demand:

Firstly The plates for dmz001 and 002 have been lost iirc so they are never getting repressed.

quote]

im confused actually when you say lost what do you mean? we live in the 21st century i would of thought i would be fairly easy to make one or two tunes into dubplates especially seeing as you can download Haunted off limewire ! but again i wouldnt know a thing...so care to delve further?

he's talking about the metalwork used to press vinyl records. metalwork is the master (positive) made to make the stamper (negative) for the production of the final product 12's. if you lose the metal master its very expensive to replace as you have to basically start all over. the metalwork for dmz 001 and 002 was lost, so there's not going to be more records made from those two releases.

swed-1- · Post by **swed-1-** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:10 pm

ahhhhh i see. yeah that would make sense then, spose mala isnt to bothered though from what ive read hes about in interviews and ting

fretn · Post by **fretn** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:12 pm

Horza wrote:
bandshell wrote:
Horza wrote:Very off topic but one guy Im missing is D1, not heard any new beats from the guy in time. Even going back through his older stuff the guys beats are still up there with the best of em!
he's got a new release coming soon.
...Mate... you are a babe! nice one haha

it's out
Chocolate Orange/ Forever(D1 rmx)

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:16 pm

swed-1- wrote:ahhhhh i see. yeah that would make sense then, spose mala isnt to bothered though from what ive read hes about in interviews and ting

most of the time, when a label makes 12"s regularly, the master metalwork is kept at the pressing plant as they must have access to it to make new 12"s to restock supply. now you can imagine at a big pressing place, there could be hundreds and thousands of metal masters being stored. things get lost or broken. it is what it is.

bandshell · Post by **bandshell** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:23 pm

fretn wrote:
Horza wrote:
bandshell wrote:
Horza wrote:Very off topic but one guy Im missing is D1, not heard any new beats from the guy in time. Even going back through his older stuff the guys beats are still up there with the best of em!
he's got a new release coming soon.
...Mate... you are a babe! nice one haha
it's out
Chocolate Orange/ Forever(D1 rmx)

nah, that's old.

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:42 am

Admit Ive still not copped that release, Ive always wondered whether it would fit what I usually play. So unbelievably happy it'd stick out a mile haha!

Mr. Mittens · Post by **Mr. Mittens** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:48 am

For The Win Records wrote:
swed-1- wrote:ive only recently been getting into the scene and even getting into it ive only gone so far as the real jump up side of dubstep Rusko, jakes, Caspa etc....but recently i have become particularly fascinated with the shit mala and coki etc produce through their label DMZ

i think its good for people like me and others who are young or just dont no much about the label...like for example...how come their vinyl is so rare? whats the reason behind this....when or is their even going to be another DMZ vinyl coming out? When was DMZ created? etc etc

A lot of people i know and i could count myself are a little bit naive about dubstep and sort of just link the best dubstep artist to that of Rusko who is pushing the scene in different ways but i think it would be good to understand a bit more about some of the guys who really kick started this scene so that newcomers dont forget where it all started.

anywho if you even care about this let me know some thoughts...if not then fair
this is honestly one of the best posts I have scene on this forum. Big up for wanting the education.

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