Rusko & David Icke

[mechabot 01]

Anyway more to the point, that kind of conspiracy bollocks is the antithesis of proper engagement with the world.

I'd throw in Big Brother, MTV and 95% of the rest as well.

I don't mind conspiracy theorists too much, by and large they are sidelined as wackos so nobody gives them any credibility but spend 5 minutes reading the tabloids....

People DO give them credibility though, that's just the problem.

Big Brother and MTV might be dumb, pacifying entertainment, but they don't actually encourage people to believe in fantasyland stuff.

But in general the world is so full of people who believe in complete fucking fairyland nonsense. Whether it's following radical preachers, signing up for Kaballah or Scientology, spending £££££ on homeopathy and reiki healing, being anti-evolution, or believing - as a worrying number of people do - that "Jews control the media" or "America engineered 9-11", the current appetite that people have to swallow absolutely anything rather than deal with the grim realities of life is a bit scary.

It's like the world's been taken over by a bunch of hippie bullshit artists or something.

This book should be required reading in schools:

To be honest you just sound like someone who's head is so buried in the sand you can't see the wood for the trees, inflamatory remarks about David Icke supporting racism are completly ridiculous bruv, in fact propoganda tactics like this are synonomous with fascism and fascist regimes throughout history.

Educate yourself on something before writing it off, much of what he says makes a lot of sense once you open your mind a little.

[bandshell]

Sample from cockney thug :p

Second drop. First is from snatch I believe. Brick top, legend

Nah this is the sample from the start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AnxtjQ4 ... re=related

Ianucci = the biggest legend this side of King Arthur

werd

Everyone only knows Alan Ford from Snatch so presumes it's from Snatch

[hackman]

lol whatever, hardly makes him a supporter of racism

Well it does, if his work is used as justification by racist groups.

Anyway more to the point, that kind of conspiracy bollocks is the antithesis of proper engagement with the world.

You can skin up, log on to the internet and tnuc your whole life away watching videos by shitbrains who "explain" how the twin towers fell down or how the Freemasons are sticking secret cameras up all our rectums... and all it will do is blind you to the real troubles and injustices in the world.

Fuck David Icke.

lol im glad my minds open to other sources of information, id rather "tnuc" away my life on that than just believe everything im told by the official sources
how the fuck would it blind me? its pretty obvious that every problem in the world is attributed to how our society is structured, with greedy capitalists at the top of the pile runnin tings
i didnt need a conspiracy theorist to tell me that

[joe muggs]

To be honest you just sound like someone who's head is so buried in the sand you can't see the wood for the trees, inflamatory remarks about David Icke supporting racism are completly ridiculous bruv, in fact propoganda tactics like this are synonomous with fascism and fascist regimes throughout history.

Educate yourself on something before writing it off, much of what he says makes a lot of sense once you open your mind a little.

Trust me I know plenty about conspiracy theories of all stripes.

Icke is a muppet. He's a bullshit artist. I don't need to use "propoganda" to see that.

If ANY of what he said was true, why hasn't he been assassinated?

[bandshell]

If ANY of what he said was true, why hasn't he been assassinated?

On that tip, what's Michael Moore been doing of late? Haven't heard of him in a long time.

[joe muggs]

lol im glad my minds open to other sources of information, id rather "tnuc" away my life on that than just believe everything im told by the official sources
how the fuck would it blind me? its pretty obvious that every problem in the world is attributed to how our society is structured, with greedy capitalists at the top of the pile runnin tings
i didnt need a conspiracy theorist to tell me that

Well amen to the last part of what you said.

But re the first part, it's not about "official" or "unofficial". That is the line used by the people who milk the conspiracy angle for their own benefit. There is no single "official media", there are lots of voices both in the mainstream and in the margins who have things worth hearing and understanding to say. You have to pick them out yourself, it's not easy.

But just because someone says they have "the REAL truth that's being hidden from you" doesn't mean they are more valid than someone who appears on the BBC or wherever. In fact, if anyone ever tells you that they know "the REAL truth", whether they're a priest, a conspiracy theorist or a meths drinker on the street, they're probably not to be trusted ey?

[hackman]

But re the first part, it's not about "official" or "unofficial". That is the line used by the people who milk the conspiracy angle for their own benefit. There is no single "official media", there are lots of voices both in the mainstream and in the margins who have things worth hearing and understanding to say. You have to pick them out yourself, it's not easy.

but the lots of voices in the mainstream and margins all basically say the same thing when it comes down to it, for me anyway, as do the politicians (labour vs conservatives)

also icke has never claimed to have the complete truth, just lots of different bits trying to get to the bottom of it
and stuff is being hidden from us you cant deny it, we the petty stupid civillians to frail to cope with the important matters of the world

In fact, if anyone ever tells you that they know "the REAL truth", whether they're a priest, a conspiracy theorist or a meths drinker on the street, they're probably not to be trusted ey?

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its kinda hypocritical that youd say that, as im assuming you watch and trust the news? as they always claim to have the only truth

[mechabot 01]

To be honest you just sound like someone who's head is so buried in the sand you can't see the wood for the trees, inflamatory remarks about David Icke supporting racism are completly ridiculous bruv, in fact propoganda tactics like this are synonomous with fascism and fascist regimes throughout history.

Educate yourself on something before writing it off, much of what he says makes a lot of sense once you open your mind a little.

Trust me I know plenty about conspiracy theories of all stripes.

Icke is a muppet. He's a bullshit artist. I don't need to use "propoganda" to see that.

If ANY of what he said was true, why hasn't he been assassinated?

Oh dear lol, how about because if he was assassinated it would validate his work to even the most closed minded of the population.

And for the record, if something is proven true in many ways which much of Ickes work is, it becomes conspiracy fact not conspiracy theory.

Do some digging on his research on aspertame, flouride, the 12th planet, alien ancestory, dumbing down through government education curriculem, eugenics, persecution of women to hold back feminine energy and I think you will be surprised at what you find. Those subjects are just scratching the surface of what is going on too.

[reptilian]

if something is proven true in many ways which much of Ickes work is

imo his bullshit detector is pretty much broken

he just seems to believe every bit of info out there that fits his general outlook and stitches it together seemingly without spending enough time stopping to properly work out what is true and what is complete nonsense, misinformation or the rambling fantasies of a mentally ill person

[reptilian]

but then i would say that given that i am a reptilian

[joe muggs]

Do some digging on his research on aspertame, flouride, the 12th planet, alien ancestory, dumbing down through government education curriculem, eugenics, persecution of women to hold back feminine energy and I think you will be surprised at what you find. Those subjects are just scratching the surface of what is going on too.

Have done.

All bullshit.

[joe muggs]

its kinda hypocritical that youd say that, as im assuming you watch and trust the news? as they always claim to have the only truth

Do they? Where?

And you shouldn't "assume", either. I don't "trust" the news any more than I trust any other group of people I don't know.

Like I said in my previous post, there are information sources everywhere that are full of fact and fiction intermingled. You have to filter them yourself, but anyone who thinks the "mainstream" is all propaganda and charlatans like Icke have the monopoly on the truth has got it seriously twisted.

[bandshell]

its kinda hypocritical that youd say that, as im assuming you watch and trust the news? as they always claim to have the only truth

Do they? Where?

I think your getting the idea of the news mixed up with the actual news hackman.

[mechabot 01]

its kinda hypocritical that youd say that, as im assuming you watch and trust the news? as they always claim to have the only truth

Do they? Where?

And you shouldn't "assume", either. I don't "trust" the news any more than I trust any other group of people I don't know.

Like I said in my previous post, there are information sources everywhere that are full of fact and fiction intermingled. You have to filter them yourself, but anyone who thinks the "mainstream" is all propaganda and charlatans like Icke have the monopoly on the truth has got it seriously twisted.

Noone has actually said that in this thread, the opposite in fact, the main opposing points to your initial comments were based on keeping an open mind about everything and not writing things off, and especially not making outlandish statements such as David Icke supporting racism and being a charlatan.[/b]

[mechabot 01]

Joe Muggs - I have no idea why my paragrpahs in the above thread came out in bold, it wasn't intentional other than to highlight a portion of your thread.


lol, I don;t want you to think I'm shouting or whatever.

[fitz]

David Icke is a moron, supports racism

No he doesn't, that's a myth. Have you read any of his books? Maybe you should and get to know


Love the way he fucked over that horrid, insufferable, west-Brit TWAT Wogan.......hate that tool

[hackman]

its kinda hypocritical that youd say that, as im assuming you watch and trust the news? as they always claim to have the only truth

Do they? Where?

And you shouldn't "assume", either. I don't "trust" the news any more than I trust any other group of people I don't know.

Like I said in my previous post, there are information sources everywhere that are full of fact and fiction intermingled. You have to filter them yourself, but anyone who thinks the "mainstream" is all propaganda and charlatans like Icke have the monopoly on the truth has got it seriously twisted.

Noone has actually said that in this thread, the opposite in fact, the main opposing points to your initial comments were based on keeping an open mind about everything and not writing things off, and especially not making outlandish statements such as David Icke supporting racism and being a charlatan.[/b]

yep

[fitz]

or "America engineered 9-11"

Read this, then come back to us;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/11-Synthetic-Te ... 758&sr=8-2

And before you say anything; NO, he's not a conspiracy theorist, or a crackpot, or a racist.


I agree that people shouldn't follow anything blindly, whether it be religion, or a cult, or a theorist, but you seem to be blinded by total cynicism

An intelligent man is one who realises how little he really 'knows'

[reptilian]

apparently the lizards use giant nuclear powered drills to bore mile long nests under our cities, the queen mother (who is a big white lizard with a long beak) shoved a dagger up someones anus in a frenzy of bloodlust, the transdimensional lizards control people like puppets and snort powdered gold

he said all that shit and was serious

and he did quote the protocols of the elders of zion at length in "the biggest secret" and if you look at his site unfortunately he does go on about the jews a lot, not saying he's an anti semite but it does seem a bit suss

[Pistonsbeneath]

icke is interesting

not many interesting people about