LP/HP vs EQing uwanted peaks

[cutslade]

Let's say you have a nice sound with its main part at about 500Hz-1000Hz but at the 200hz region you have another high peak. Now you don't want the 200Hz peak. What do you do to get rid of it? Do you put a steep HP filter below 500Hz to clean out the 200Hz Peak or do you think its better to use an EQ with like -12dB or more and a small Q on that specific unwantet frequency?
I usually take just a steep HP filter and just low cut evrything i don't want and it's ok, but some people like to just decrease that unwanted peak with an EQ. Does it maybe give a more natural sound if you just EQ the unwanted peak down and let those other frequencies below that peak be as they were? Or do you prefer to just massively HP/LP the unwanted stuff away? (thats what i usually do..)
"It depends..." I know, but please can anyone tell about the general pros and cons of specific EQing vs just heavy filtering? (especially in terms of keeping sound natural!). thx!

[deadly_habit]

filter em or eq out and as always depends
depends on if you detract too much from orig sound
loud mixdowns come from each element having its own range in freq band

[Lurka]

loud mixdowns come from each element having its own range in freq band

exactly!!! its like a jigsaw, everything has its own place! i wish more people realised this than limiting everything to shit!

but on ure question i am really anal about rolling off low frequencies (maybe a bit too much!) and it can affect the natural sound of the sample. however i only really do those big cuts on selected frequencies when it is either the frequency is really ringing or if in the analyzer its a bit too spiky!

so my solution to ure problem would be to roll the lower freqs off but do it with a sloped eq so still get some of the lower frequncies!

[Sharmaji]

depends on the EQ

[cutslade]

Is that your fundamental down there at 200?

Yes, I guess so.


..ok, so I see it's apparently not too bad to use HP and LP filters rather than to use peaking EQs. I was just wondering, seeing those people with their really sophisticated looking EQ settings, while I often am almost straight bandpassing stuff to make it sit right . Lets say i have a kick: I low cut for SUB and hi cut for bass/snare.. done. And if the sound itself isnt good I just take another kick or pitch it. I usually take quite some time to find the fitting sounds.. but I think it's better than EQing not fitting sounds too hard.

[scooterjack]

you need to learn proper subtractive eqing, using a LP/HP is overkill and most likely destroying the harmonics in your samples

[deadly_habit]

you need to learn proper subtractive eqing, using a LP/HP is overkill and most likely destroying the harmonics in your samples

as always depends

[scooterjack]

you need to learn proper subtractive eqing, using a LP/HP is overkill and most likely destroying the harmonics in your samples

as always depends

yes it does depend, but always using a hp/lp is wrong, plain and simple

[deadly_habit]

you need to learn proper subtractive eqing, using a LP/HP is overkill and most likely destroying the harmonics in your samples

as always depends

yes it does depend, but always using a hp/lp is wrong, plain and simple

def a filter is for more extreme cuts than sub eqing
depends on the noise floor

[scooterjack]

depends on the noise floor

dude... no


proper eqing is a MUST HAVE skill for someone interested in becoming any kind of proper engineer. period

[therapist]

you need to learn proper subtractive eqing, using a LP/HP is overkill and most likely destroying the harmonics in your samples

You can't mess up harmonics by low cutting can you?

[scooterjack]

you need to learn proper subtractive eqing, using a LP/HP is overkill and most likely destroying the harmonics in your samples

Is there a case that low cutting is an exception to this? There would be no harmonics below the fundamental no?

high passing out unneeded low frequencies isn't a bad thing, not in the least.

I'm not saying to never use a hp/lp on a sound, not at all, but what the original poster is doing is just cutting things that can easily be fixed with proper eqing.


and to address your edit, the harmonics i were referencing to him losing, was when he (the OP) uses a LP indiscriminately

[deadly_habit]

depends on the noise floor

dude... no


proper eqing is a MUST HAVE skill for someone interested in becoming any kind of proper engineer. period

yea maybve im too spoiled by old analog gear it def is a muit have in digital world
unfortunately noise floor is a term of the past now