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happy thanksgiving to the american crew.

Post by seckle » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:39 pm

happy holidays and give thanks. safe travels to everybody.

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Post by djshiva » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:44 pm

giving BIG BIG thanks that my boy ben is ok after his lung collapsed after last night's dubstep festivities. :/

when i told him we would have chest crushing bass, i think he took me WAY too seriously.

send out some healing vibes to my bruv and fellow dubsteppa...(that's him below, rockin' the decks before his self-contained breathing apparatus took a shit on him)

oh and p.s. evidently this is an increasingly common problem amongst young men (tall and skinny seems to be the common thread) in their 20's and 30's. so guys, make sure to get your self checked out on a regular basis. this was WAY scary. :(

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Post by ytee » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:59 pm

Get better Ben, and yes all you yanks....have a good one....since my company deals with you lot most 99% of the time, I'm taking the morning off.

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Post by seckle » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:05 pm

bump.

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Post by titchyschneider » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:15 pm

let us also remember what the original reason for there being thanksgiving is as well

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Post by seckle » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:17 pm

titchyschneider wrote:let us also remember what the original reason for there being thanksgiving is as well
no doubt.

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Post by titchyschneider » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:26 pm

http://www.eatel.net/~wahya/thksgvg.html

Americans today believe that Thanksgiving celebrates a bountiful harvest, but that is not so. By 1970, the Wampanoag had turned up a copy of a Thanksgiving proclamation made by the governor to the colony. The text revealed the ugly truth: After a colonial militia had returned from murdering the men, women, and children of an Indian village, the governor proclaimed a holiday and feast to give thanks for the massacre. He also encouraged other colonies to do likewise - in other words, every autumn after the crops are in, go kill Indians and celebrate your murders with a feast.

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Post by seckle » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:34 pm

titchyschneider wrote:http://www.eatel.net/~wahya/thksgvg.html

Americans today believe that Thanksgiving celebrates a bountiful harvest, but that is not so. By 1970, the Wampanoag had turned up a copy of a Thanksgiving proclamation made by the governor to the colony. The text revealed the ugly truth: After a colonial militia had returned from murdering the men, women, and children of an Indian village, the governor proclaimed a holiday and feast to give thanks for the massacre. He also encouraged other colonies to do likewise - in other words, every autumn after the crops are in, go kill Indians and celebrate your murders with a feast.
thanks, but i think we all know about the history of our holidays. this is 2006.
as if the UK doesn't have a shady history of pillaging and massacres in the name of the "empire". if you want to pursue this historical path you're on, we could be here all day examining what the british empire is responsible for in the last 200 years. don't ruin this thread please.

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Post by titchyschneider » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:44 pm

im not american bashing. just pointing out what the holiday (to many if not all) is about. and im quite aware of the british empires ugly history, but it doesnt bother me if you want to talk about it. im not english so feel free to go to town on the issue... in fact, i welcome it.
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Post by marsyas » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:53 pm

seckle wrote:
titchyschneider wrote:http://www.eatel.net/~wahya/thksgvg.html

Americans today believe that Thanksgiving celebrates a bountiful harvest, but that is not so. By 1970, the Wampanoag had turned up a copy of a Thanksgiving proclamation made by the governor to the colony. The text revealed the ugly truth: After a colonial militia had returned from murdering the men, women, and children of an Indian village, the governor proclaimed a holiday and feast to give thanks for the massacre. He also encouraged other colonies to do likewise - in other words, every autumn after the crops are in, go kill Indians and celebrate your murders with a feast.
thanks, but i think we all know about the history of our holidays. this is 2006.
as if the UK doesn't have a shady history of pillaging and massacres in the name of the "empire". if you want to pursue this historical path you're on, we could be here all day examining what the british empire is responsible for in the last 200 years. don't ruin this thread please.
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Post by rachel » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:57 pm

seckle wrote:
titchyschneider wrote:http://www.eatel.net/~wahya/thksgvg.html

Americans today believe that Thanksgiving celebrates a bountiful harvest, but that is not so. By 1970, the Wampanoag had turned up a copy of a Thanksgiving proclamation made by the governor to the colony. The text revealed the ugly truth: After a colonial militia had returned from murdering the men, women, and children of an Indian village, the governor proclaimed a holiday and feast to give thanks for the massacre. He also encouraged other colonies to do likewise - in other words, every autumn after the crops are in, go kill Indians and celebrate your murders with a feast.
thanks, but i think we all know about the history of our holidays. this is 2006.
as if the UK doesn't have a shady history of pillaging and massacres in the name of the "empire". if you want to pursue this historical path you're on, we could be here all day examining what the british empire is responsible for in the last 200 years. don't ruin this thread please.
happy tksgiving etc 2 all US crew (my lil bro in nyc included).

wld be interested to know tho how yr average native american feels about the holiday? 2006 so all good or some resonance in terms of current inequalities and that? forgive large ignorance if not at all the case. ask because saw the aboriginal reaction to australia day when i lived there (not happy, and quite understandable given the general state of affairs), same ways as always wonder what yr average german resident in uk thinks of remembrance day here (larging up dresden bombers etc).

erm...yup. off-topic init 8)

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Post by emu » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:57 pm

happy thanksgiving!

this is what im making


MICHAEL JORDANS MACARONI AND CHEESE

1 lb box elbow macaroni cooked

Blond Roux (White Sauce)
1 stick butter
3/4 cup all-purpose flour

Cheese Sauce
6 cups milk
1/2 cup blond roux (made in advance)
1 tablespoon vegetable oil
1 cup diced onion (about 1 large onion)
1 teaspoon kosher salt
1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 tablespoon plus on teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
1/4 cup Dijon mustard
5 cups aged white cheddar cheese, grated (about 20 oz)
6 oz Gorgonzola cheese, crumbled
1 3/4 cups grated Parmesan cheese (about 7 oz) reserve 1 cup for topping
1 cup fresh bread crumbs

Preheat oven to 400 degrees.

Cook macaroni according to package directions. Drain, rinse with cold water and set aside.

Blond roux:
Melt 1 stick of butter in small saucepan. Add 3/4 cup of flour. Blend well. Cook while stirring constantly, about 3-5 minutes, until flour and butter are well blended and start to dry slightly. Reserve for cheese sauce.

Cheese sauce:
In a large saucepan, bring milk to simmer over medium heat. Whisk in 1/2 cup of the roux. Continue to whisk over heat until smooth and sauce begins to thicken, about 10 minutes. Saute diced onion in oil over medium heat until soft. Add onion to roux. Next add Worcestershire sauce, Dijon mustard, salt and pepper. Whisk to incorporate all ingredients. Begin to add cheddar cheese, gradually, in small amounts. Whisk constantly to help dissolve. Add remaining cheddar, the Gorgonzola and 3/4 cup of Parmesan. Whisk until smooth.

Mix cheese sauce with cooked macaroni. Place in a large buttered oven-proof dish. Top with breadcrumbs and remaining 1 cup of Parmesan cheese.

Bake for about 10 minutes or until hot. To brown, place under the broiler until top is evenly browned; watch carefully.
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Post by shonky » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:59 pm

I am english, and I think the pillaging and massacres did help us to get loads of cheap stuff and allow us to still be one of the most monied countries in the world, whilst producing nothing of much worth at all.

We all get to sit in nice air-conditioned offices on the internet all day, perpetuating bureaucratic rubbish, so that we don't have to lose limbs in dodgy factories with dodgy health and safety records. Huzzah

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Seriously though, happy Thanksgiving :D
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Post by rachel » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:01 pm

Shonky wrote:I am english, and I think the pillaging and massacres did help us to get loads of cheap stuff and allow us to still be one of the most monied countries in the world, whilst producing nothing of much worth at all.

We all get to sit in nice air-conditioned offices on the internet all day, perpetuating bureaucratic rubbish, so that we don't have to lose limbs in dodgy factories with dodgy health and safety records. Huzzah

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Seriously though, happy Thanksgiving :D
air-conditioning man. colonialism all in perspective now. nice

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Post by seckle » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:09 pm

rachel wrote:happy tksgiving etc 2 all US crew (my lil bro in nyc included).
nyc! 8)

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Post by hate recordings » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:34 pm

titchyschneider wrote:http://www.eatel.net/~wahya/thksgvg.html

Americans today believe that Thanksgiving celebrates a bountiful harvest, but that is not so. By 1970, the Wampanoag had turned up a copy of a Thanksgiving proclamation made by the governor to the colony. The text revealed the ugly truth: After a colonial militia had returned from murdering the men, women, and children of an Indian village, the governor proclaimed a holiday and feast to give thanks for the massacre. He also encouraged other colonies to do likewise - in other words, every autumn after the crops are in, go kill Indians and celebrate your murders with a feast.
yeah, i agree. it's a fucked up holiday and not alot of people know it's origins. theft, rape, masacres and gluttony. how fantastic is that? let's celebrate!

however, it is 2006 like someone else said, and for those who don't know, this holiday is really nice now that times have changed. it's more about family than anything else. afterall, it's not everday that my mom asks me to drop about 10 jazz cd's on her to rotate during the afternoon while everyone is home spending time and having a good one.

not alot of families get to spend very much time and have a plesant situation with each other in this day and age in the states. everyone is too preoccupied with thier own thing - ie television, internet, videogames, socializing with other people, ect.

so it's nice to have a day put aside to spend time with your family. my family likes to get HAMMERED! it's fucking fantastic. right now, the food is being prepared, the sounds of kenny doram's "quiet kenny" are flowing through the kitchen and the alcohol is flowing like the atlantic ocean during hurricane season.

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Post by spaceboy » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:56 pm

Rah i didnt know the truth behind the matter.

interesting....

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Post by drew » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:29 pm

hold tight all tofurkey crew!

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Post by little boh peep » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:38 pm

drew wrote:hold tight all tofurkey crew!
Yes yes, tofurkey causin' worries at the table! Larging up the bean curd each and every!

Happy Thanksgiving all. 8)

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Post by ozeb » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:40 pm

Little Boh Peep wrote:
drew wrote:hold tight all tofurkey crew!
Yes yes, tofurkey causin' worries at the table! Larging up the bean curd each and every!

Happy Thanksgiving all. 8)
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