CAN FILTH BE A NEW GENRE NOW?

[jolly wailer]

I suppose most of the time the exciting stuffs going on in small clubs anyway. see: Why Not? vs. FWD.

It's tempting to say that the point at which a lot of people started finding the stuff in room two of a big club more fun and interesting than the stuff being played in the main room was not long after dubstep actually started getting played in the main room of big clubs. It's not like in 2003 awesome innovative dubstep was getting played in the main room at fabric or anything.

And it seems increasingly like the small clubs and the DJs and labels and producers doing the stuff that I enjoy are carving out a space that's somewhere seperate from the 'mainstream' of dubstep...

also for a long time when dubstep was still making in-roads into clubs it was the music of Room 2, the main floor has always been jump up..

so what has actually changed? Room 2 is still pon it yeah > ?

[gravious]

(IF YOU LIKE THIS SOUND GO THIS WAY, GO THIS WAY,
AND IF YOU LIKE THAT SOUND GO THAT WAY, GO THAT WAY)

TELL US WOT U CALL IT THEN?

[slothrop]

Garage? Urban? 2-step?

[fractal]

music, bass music

[drum syndicate]

thread needs more http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=98609

[Dark Reign]

Am I the only one who likes all types of dubstep? Such an exciting genre on all levels

[86.]

Am I the only one who likes all types of dubstep? Such an exciting genre on all levels

yeah I'm not in the either or, one-dimensional camp of listeners.

I naturally listen to more chill music, but there is some hype shit that's brilliant.

I don't listen to no Doorly though.

[abZ]

These threads always get me in the mood to write tunes. I am thinking huge bassline midrange cack interwoven with chain saws, the works. Need some pendu snares in there too! And kick drum rolls you knows it m8.

[Dark Reign]

Am I the only one who likes all types of dubstep? Such an exciting genre on all levels

I don't listen to no Doorly though.

I like Doorly. Well his bonkers remix is dope havent really heard much else. Have read negative stuff on here about him though & nero too.

Is hating on Nero & Doorly the new Caspa & Rusko?

[djelements]

(IF YOU LIKE THIS SOUND GO THIS WAY, GO THIS WAY,
AND IF YOU LIKE THAT SOUND GO THAT WAY, GO THAT WAY)

TELL US WOT U CALL IT THEN?

We can be best friends now, right?

[south3rn]

I'd agree with you,

but dubstep isn't really dubstep anymore.

do you mean, dubstep isn't what you'd like it to be?

I hate these fucking whining threads.

no body is forcing you to listen to certain sounds... listen to what you like!

i hate these fucking whining about whining posts.

delete your account, please.

[julesee]

I'd agree with you,

but dubstep isn't really dubstep anymore.

do you mean, dubstep isn't what you'd like it to be?

I hate these fucking whining threads.

no body is forcing you to listen to certain sounds... listen to what you like!

i hate these fucking whining about whining posts.

delete your account, please.

[djelements]

I'd agree with you,

but dubstep isn't really dubstep anymore.

do you mean, dubstep isn't what you'd like it to be?

I hate these fucking whining threads.

no body is forcing you to listen to certain sounds... listen to what you like!

i hate these fucking whining about whining posts.

delete your account, please.

[south3rn]

elements, believe you me i put my hand to the monitor

but on the real, i was halfway kidding towards matt.

only delete your account if you want to.

[B_90]

Who cares, we all get to choose what we listen too. I love dubby dubstep and filth and i do both in my production, I just get on with it.

[kidlogic]

I'd agree with you,

but dubstep isn't really dubstep anymore.

do you mean, dubstep isn't what you'd like it to be?

I hate these fucking whining threads.

no body is forcing you to listen to certain sounds... listen to what you like!

Yeah but if I wanna go see dubstep, and the flier says dubstep, and it's "filth" shit, I don't wanna be there.

It's a different crowd really.

Yong your like 16 bruv, so your not going to many shows are you.

Seeing that your part of a radio station that thrives on the filth this thread is a bit silly no?

He doesnt go to many shows, but I know what he's saying... you dont have to go to shows to understand whats going on. Im getting pretty tired of every tune at a "dubstep" show sounding like every tune did at a "dnb" show 4 years ago.

I was one of the people in the "nah, its all dubstep, innit" camps for the longest time, but Im sorry... theres just too damn much music with too many influences now.

These threads remind me of this hypothetical conversation...

"I listen to rock".
"Oh really, what kind of rock? Punk, metal, pop, grunge, lo-fi, indie?"
"Nah mate, I said I listen to rock, you know, rock... with guitars."
"Right, right, I get that... but what kind do you like the most?"
"What you mean, like the most... I like it all, I listen to it all... its all just rock..."
"Ok then, who do you like?"
"Oh right... I Tool, Killswitch Engage, Mastadon... "
"So you like metal?"
"NO YOU TWAT, I LIKE ROCK! ROCK! DONT YOU GET IT? ITS ALL ROCK, IT DONT NEED NO SUBGENRES!!!"

There is such a diverse range of styles represented in this wonderful music that all falls under the umbrella term of 'dubstep' that there needs to be a bit more distinction, if only for the ease of discussion and to be sure you know what you're getting into and paying your money for.

Look at house... theres what? 25+ different styles of house? But they're all recognizable as house, and classifying it into different catagories hasnt hurt the genre, not in the least.

All this ambiguity is only confusing matters IMO.

[kidlogic]

the problem isn't what music is called. the problem is that 75% of the producers out there would rather follow people than take roads on their own. this music got worldwide recognition from being experimental, not being cookie cutter..connect the dots...copycat...bass music. if producer A,B,C and D are all making basslines one way, why the hell would you take the same road as them? because its safe? because you want attention?

if you want attention, let your music demand attention. this is a global sound. the production and skill level for those at the top get's higher everyday. make sure that the music you're letting out to the world is as skillful and different than everything you hear being released right now. otherwise, what's the point? when there's global attention on one sound, its bound to be hard to get heard. those thinking its an easy road need to rethink what they're doing and why they're doing it. as silkie said a while back, "there isn't some noah's ark thats going to leave the dock, and leav you behind." this music is here to stay and open to everyone, just be very smart about where you want to go, how you get there and how much work you're willing to put in.

I agree with everything you said... but I still think that for the sake of conversation and classification, there needs to be some sort of sub-genre in this thing we call dubstep. Ill let others classify my tunes, cause I dont really give a shit what you call them - to me they're "originals" - but for everyone else, its a lot easier to describe if theres a bit of distinction.

[abZ]

I was still calling DNB Jungle in like 99 Count me out of the new micro-genres. I will still happily call it all dubstep whether you like it or not.

[surface_tension]

I think NIN suck and killed the scene years ago with their lame sissy emo industrial disco pop cock rock.

Discuss.

You shut your fucking mouth.

[aftee]

I'd agree with you,

but dubstep isn't really dubstep anymore.

do you mean, dubstep isn't what you'd like it to be?

I hate these fucking whining threads.

no body is forcing you to listen to certain sounds... listen to what you like!

i hate these fucking whining about whining posts.

delete your account, please.

I hate these fucking whining about fucking whining about whining posts.