brostep

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for lack of a better name...

i hate to make a wipe thread complaining about this but it has been gnawing at my innards:

has anyone noticed how aggressive and testosterone fueled tunes have been getting made? dun get me wrong, i am able to enjoy a rough and rugged tune that meks me twist up into a screw face, but i fear this trend is taking us on the route that dnb went some years ago. the whole who can sound the hardest pissing contest (i.e. who can drive girls off the dancefloor the fastest) caused many to jump ship from dnb and breaks.

i'm not saying it has to be all deep and mellow, but the shredded midrange, reminiscent of tearout breakbeats, doesn't sit well with me.

i understand that styles evolve, but i think we need to take caution. i'm not going to name names, but some tunes just turn the dancefloor into backwards baseball cap brofest. i'd hate to have another style of music that i enjoy playing and dancing to get morphed into an unpalatable mush of midrange madness.

thoughts?


ps
F U IF YOU DISAGREE.

[nastylimbcheat]

no fuck u

[intoccabile]

Agreed.

P.S. : this thread might interest you. http://www.dubstepforum.com/post601747. ... ss#p601747

[morro_e]

agree

for some dicks out there in the scene its just an easy way to make a name, cuz its easy to make a stupid banger tune

but there allready have been topics on this

[siberia]

richie august is the king of brostep. don't worry, the fad will pass eventually, bros will get tired of wobblez and they'll jump on some other new genre and try to make it as aggro and he-man as possible, continuing this cycle of shit producers who lack any musical talent

[rob sparx]

i hate to make a wipe thread complaining about this

Think about this - I might spend 2-3 weeks writing a deep 12 and get £250-300 for my troubles - thats way below minimum wage so why are you suprised that no-one can be arsed with writing deep? Producers I know who've been writing just bangers for the last few years have got more gigs this month than I've had all year! I mean threads full of compliments are great but they don't pay the fucking rent do they?

[joe muggs]

You can't fight it.

Cheap thrills will always sell, simple as that. The first real experience of losing it to music I had was when we were 13 and used to take a ghetto blaster to the park with Anthrax and Megadeth tapes and bang our heads and throw each other around til we were completely dizzy. When I was 18 I loved gabba and even really mindless hard house with massive snare rushes and fat distorted acid lines. I loved deeper stuf too, but banging a load of whizz and going batshit mental to pounding techno was a great part of my life. I still go and see bands like Slayer and Napalm Death on a regular basis, and yes, I still like a lot of mindless raw dance music, whether that be booty bass or buzzsaw wob-wob dubstep rippers.

Loads of my friends worked in the deeper or stranger sides of techno and electronica in the 90s, and all of them had to deal with the realisation that they would be far more successful monetarily if they made dumber, harder, more predictable tunes. And some of them did that! They either used the cheesy music to fund their explorations of deeper stuff, or they just said "fuck it" and went the whole hog in making and playing the tunes that would put beer in their fridge and bread on their table. Same in D&B in the late 90s, I saw great talents move into producing either washed-out blandcore TV advert toss or dull-as-fuck Ed Rush clone darkstep just for the money value. And fair play to them, I've learned to stop judging people for making a living.

But people want cheap thrills. That's all there is to it. You can make a choice not to be a part of that, and I have massive respect to the musicians who do stick to their very focused creative vision - but to rail against it, to ask "why" all the time, or to get bitter about the musicians who ARE earning a living through predictable and noisy (but, don't ever forget this, FUN) music is not only pointless, it's destructive. Let it go!

[Genevieve]

richie august is the king of brostep. don't worry, the fad will pass eventually, bros will get tired of wobblez and they'll jump on some other new genre

Doubt it, jump-up and clownstep dnb has been the norm for years and years now.

[joe muggs]

richie august is the king of brostep. don't worry, the fad will pass eventually, bros will get tired of wobblez and they'll jump on some other new genre

Doubt it, jump-up and clownstep dnb has been the norm for years and years now.

yep, and hard dance / hard house / happy hardcore / whatever are THE great survivors of the rave world... you just need to accept that people genuinely love this stuff and that it fulfils a fundamental need in them for dumb hedonism, and move on!

[Dark Reign]

Listen to Joe Muggs he speaks the troof.

[evil madmen]

Theres good hard stuff, theres good deep stuff. Does it matter as long as you can groove to it?

[abZ]

I am glad there is an extreme range to dubstep. I think that is what makes it good. Something for everyone. Really it seems to me you brostep has been pushing out the wobble and that isn't a bad think imo. In the meantime the deepbass techy funky type sound has been getting huge. So whats the problem? It isn't like chainsaws are the only option. And yeah this has been discussed at great length on here already so I call this a waste thread.

[staypuft]

in addition to what joe sed, I gotta say that the best thing to do with a (valid) complaint like that is to use it as a springboard to go to the next level. it's impossible to reverse a trend like brostep, so focus your energies into what inspires and excites you. chances are you'll have to ditch a 'scene' or a few of your old 'peeps' along the way if you dislike their stylistic direction, that's the nature of change...

[surface_tension]

I don't see a problem with it. At least they came up with a name for it. I'd rather not have it be confused with Dubstep tbh. It is what it is, like it or not.

[dubout]

Sorry to interrupt but where is the name 'brostep' from? What does it mean? Is it now the equivalent of what was called 'midrange' on this board? Please enlighten me

[siberia]

did you not read the original post? he explained it pretty well. or are you one of those numbnuts who scrolls to the bottom without even reading threads.

anyway, its just a sort of comedic name for all the shitty tunes coming out from these producers who keep pushing this aggressive sound with the intentions of out doing the previous tune and so on and so forth...

where did dynamics go? it seems as if these producers and djs have lost touch with keeping a variety and balance. i hear sets from well known djs that is nonstop mid range tune after tune with some rap vocals over the top. it gets tiring and becomes boring very quickly.. the tunes start to all blend in and sound the same

[seckle]

i can't stand this shit. its the lowest common denominator in this sound. it also turns this into the same thing that fucked up DNB/jungle. it turns it into a "i'm more evil" than you kind of party. so people want to see just how evil each set can get over the course of the night, which means that its a whole bunch of dudes standing on the dancefloor and 4 girls. you might as well push play on an ipod and go have a pint, because that's how original the music will be.

it feeds into expectations rather than delivering the power of the sound via its unpredictability. yes, dubstep is diverse. yes dubstep should mutate and have different textures, but this brostep shit isn't mutating...its stagnating. in fact, its just one big formula. its the ultimate bandwagon to nowhere fast. as DJ zinc said recently....dubstep needs its own "bandwagon" sub genre.

[dubout]

did you not read the original post? he explained it pretty well. or are you one of those numbnuts who scrolls to the bottom without even reading threads.

I read the full post. I wanted to know

where is the name 'brostep' from?

which means: what is the translation? where and when was it coined? What is comedic about it?

It pops up in the threadtitle and everyone agrees on it? That would be the first time around here .. Plus I'm not a native speaker. 'Bro' could just mean everything. I'm interested in such things, so please be nice

[siberia]

did you not read the original post? he explained it pretty well. or are you one of those numbnuts who scrolls to the bottom without even reading threads.

I read the full post. I wanted to know

where is the name 'brostep' from?

which means: what is the translation? where and when was it coined? What is comedic about it?

It pops up in the threadtitle and everyone agrees on it? That would be the first time around here .. Plus I'm not a native speaker. 'Bro' could just mean everything. I'm interested in such things, so please be nice

haha you should find it comedic that people are calling it "brostep" in and of itself

[alexchuck]

grow a pair, there's room for any kind of variation over the dubstep beat