dnb jumping on dubstep

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:19 am

there's no way i'm falling for that one again

i can't go into the elk's lodge without ppl snickering

shards · Post by **shards** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:20 am

Bob Crunkhouse wrote:
Tyrant wrote:dubstep is the next step and in another 10 years who knows what the fuck it will be.

3 step?

5/4-step. Remember you heard it from me when it happens

moldy · Post by **moldy** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:45 am

Shards wrote:5/4-step. Remember you heard it from me when it happens

Prime numbers can't be beat.

Have a listen to "Numbers Dub" here:
http://selectormoldy.com/?p=111

7!

phurious · Post by **phurious** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:20 am

Pablex wrote:
phurious wrote: I can't see what the problem is.
i never said there's a problem in the first place..

Figure of speech (of sorts). OK. What/why is this such an issue...

pablex · Post by **pablex** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:31 am

phurious wrote:
Pablex wrote:
phurious wrote: I can't see what the problem is.
i never said there's a problem in the first place..
Figure of speech (of sorts). OK. What/why is this such an issue...

it's not an issue to me, as someone said above, it just raises questions.
one that i'm asking myself is how quick this might all evolve, that's not even a negative or positive question at all
anyway

Kaizen wrote: bandwagon?........ gotta disagree with ya.... the nu-urban guys been on it forages with the dubstep, only reason why its happening now is cos they just moved offices!

i don't know that, just 4 new labels distributed by a mainly dnb distributor (any distributor) seems a bit weird to me

Kaizen wrote: and what wrong with a mainly dnb distributor dealing with dubstep.? what bout st holdings! take it you'd say same thing about them then?

i don't follow everything that's happening, i only noticed this because Kev posts the new records for each week on fora.
nothing against the guys btw, most of my records come from them.

i don't want to start a fight or whatever, just making a simple observation and the fact that people push me onto an opinion i didn't even share makes it a worthfull "question"
i'm not even sure if it's necessary that i post in this topic, you guys seem to have opinions and ideas on this one.

edit:
i must admitt that the topic title makes it pretty questionable exactly what I think of it

anyway, got stuff to do, crap to care about so you won't see me posting here for a couple of days again

dice · Post by **dice** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:35 am

moldy wrote:
Shards wrote:5/4-step. Remember you heard it from me when it happens
Prime numbers can't be beat.

Have a listen to "Numbers Dub" here:
http://selectormoldy.com/?p=111

7!

czech those comments ghuy :poke:

s.t. holdings · Post by **s.t. holdings** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:43 am

Not wanting to get too involved in this thread, I'd like to point out S.T. Holdings has been distributing dubstep for 6 years... Not exactly jumping on a bandwagon

flipw · Post by **flipw** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:58 am

Parson wrote:fuck the talk of bandwagon

everybody wants the scene to grow but when it grows its all bandwagon

fucking nonsense is what that is

does everyone really want the scene to grow?
why?
for me that glass is half empty.....

Already for me there are the right amount of quality releases (just too many to reasonably afford without smoking less), and events.

On D&B producers and dubstep - as long as its not just for cash/fame this must surely result in some good tunes?

kaizen · Post by **kaizen** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:50 pm

Wicked Sway wrote:
Kaizen wrote:
Pablex wrote:
Skrapes wrote:I'm not quite sure what you're getting at
the fact that a mainly dnb distributor now distributes dubstep,
all first releases of labels.
i got the feeling these are dnb people jumping on the bandwagon since everyone in dnb has a record label aswell.
bandwagon?........ gotta disagree with ya.... the nu-urban guys been on it forages with the dubstep, only reason why its happening now is cos they just moved offices!
and what wrong with a mainly dnb distributor dealing with dubstep.? what bout st holdings! take it you'd say same thing about them then?
Damn right. They distribute Flatline Audio, my dnb label and my dubstep label, Dubline Audio. Those guys are great people. And one of the best Distro's in EDM.

you must know my brother tobie then?

kaizen · Post by **kaizen** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:51 pm

Pablex wrote:
phurious wrote:
Pablex wrote:
phurious wrote: I can't see what the problem is.
i never said there's a problem in the first place..
Figure of speech (of sorts). OK. What/why is this such an issue...
it's not an issue to me, as someone said above, it just raises questions.
one that i'm asking myself is how quick this might all evolve, that's not even a negative or positive question at all
anyway
Kaizen wrote: bandwagon?........ gotta disagree with ya.... the nu-urban guys been on it forages with the dubstep, only reason why its happening now is cos they just moved offices!
i don't know that, just 4 new labels distributed by a mainly dnb distributor (any distributor) seems a bit weird to me
Kaizen wrote: and what wrong with a mainly dnb distributor dealing with dubstep.? what bout st holdings! take it you'd say same thing about them then?
i don't follow everything that's happening, i only noticed this because Kev posts the new records for each week on fora.
nothing against the guys btw, most of my records come from them.

i don't want to start a fight or whatever, just making a simple observation and the fact that people push me onto an opinion i didn't even share makes it a worthfull "question"
i'm not even sure if it's necessary that i post in this topic, you guys seem to have opinions and ideas on this one.

edit:
i must admitt that the topic title makes it pretty questionable exactly what I think of it
anyway, got stuff to do, crap to care about so you won't see me posting here for a couple of days again

its all kool bro, everyones entitled to there own opinion

Juan BassHead · Post by **Juan BassHead** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:50 pm

"there are only 2 types of music...good music and bad music."

Juan BassHead · Post by **Juan BassHead** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:56 pm

I think keeping dubstep to yourself is what could kill it eventually. In my opinion its a good idea to expose any type of music you love to as many people as you can. Thats the best way it will progress and evolve. Producers from other genres can make dubstep using techniques that they learned over years dealing with other genres. The elitist attitude is what will kill any scene.

plume · Post by **plume** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:12 pm

do you think the mostly negative attitude towards the d'n'b scene here is generated by the fact that a LOT of d'n'b heads hate on dubstep, OR, is it just the lack of a quality d'n'b scene over there? it's interesting because I think d'n'b parties (here, stateside) are generally really fresh and exciting - people aren't there to take pills and listen to fucking pendulum, they're there to hear the music and dance which is refreshing... the trance scene is where I see the most pill usage and asshats. not trying to hate on that genre either but it's my observation.

also I find it crazy funny that a few select dubstep heads insist that dubstep isn't like d'n'b at ALL... I'm like what? It's all fucking breaks at the end of the day innit? I do realize that a lot of ds has it's own vibe, hey it's why I'm all over the sound but I've heard plenty of the same exact production technique found in d'n'b on ds tunes, reese, amen, big sub bass, spaced out atmospheric, the whole dub influence in general? I realize I have an entirely different perspective because I'm not right in the dubstep epicenter but quality music is quality music no matter the genre. I'm proud to say that I still represent d'n'b... and I certainly have room on my plate for both genres. I just don't get the hating on either side really, the music is very similar if you ask me.

wicked sway · Post by **wicked sway** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:24 pm

Kaizen wrote: you must know my brother tobie then?

Yeah I know tobie, but I talk more with Andy. Good people. Have taken care of my label. Lots of Flatline love for dem doods.

wicked sway · Post by **wicked sway** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:32 pm

plume wrote:do you think the mostly negative attitude towards the d'n'b scene here is generated by the fact that a LOT of d'n'b heads hate on dubstep, OR, is it just the lack of a quality d'n'b scene over there? it's interesting because I think d'n'b parties (here, stateside) are generally really fresh and exciting - people aren't there to take pills and listen to fucking pendulum, they're there to hear the music and dance which is refreshing... the trance scene is where I see the most pill usage and asshats. not trying to hate on that genre either but it's my observation.

also I find it crazy funny that a few select dubstep heads insist that dubstep isn't like d'n'b at ALL... I'm like what? It's all fucking breaks at the end of the day innit? I do realize that a lot of ds has it's own vibe, hey it's why I'm all over the sound but I've heard plenty of the same exact production technique found in d'n'b on ds tunes, reese, amen, big sub bass, spaced out atmospheric, the whole dub influence in general? I realize I have an entirely different perspective because I'm not right in the dubstep epicenter but quality music is quality music no matter the genre. I'm proud to say that I still represent d'n'b... and I certainly have room on my plate for both genres. I just don't get the hating on either side really, the music is very similar if you ask me.

Great post. Although 50% of the people hating on Dubstep on Doa are morans.

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:32 pm

flipw wrote:
Parson wrote:fuck the talk of bandwagon

everybody wants the scene to grow but when it grows its all bandwagon

fucking nonsense is what that is
does everyone really want the scene to grow?
why?
for me that glass is half empty.....

Already for me there are the right amount of quality releases (just too many to reasonably afford without smoking less), and events.

On D&B producers and dubstep - as long as its not just for cash/fame this must surely result in some good tunes?

uhm people don't get rich and famous from dubstep or dnb. most people don't even make enough to quit their day job

wicked sway · Post by **wicked sway** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:33 pm

Parson wrote:
flipw wrote:
Parson wrote:fuck the talk of bandwagon

everybody wants the scene to grow but when it grows its all bandwagon

fucking nonsense is what that is
does everyone really want the scene to grow?
why?
for me that glass is half empty.....

Already for me there are the right amount of quality releases (just too many to reasonably afford without smoking less), and events.

On D&B producers and dubstep - as long as its not just for cash/fame this must surely result in some good tunes?

uhm people don't get rich and famous from dubstep or dnb. most people don't even make enough to quit their day job

Make!?

parson · Post by **parson** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:36 pm

seen

dreadnought · Post by **dreadnought** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:44 pm

let the fuckaz jump on!!!

most prob wont be able to produce good dubstep anyways

let them fizzle out and laugh at them

phurious · Post by **phurious** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:51 pm

Does anyone remember uber House producer Todd Terry's soiree into drum n bass with his Revolutions album?

I wish there was forums around when that one was released.

Incidentally I quite like the album...a tad (or is that Todd

) simplistic, but some of it is funny in a good way.

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