brostep

[symbl]

[symbl]

People need to stop getting so aggravated over sub genres.

I'm not aggrivated over a sub-genre. I'm aggrivated cos someone farted in my cheerios this morning.

My comment wasn't directed at you.

Better not have been. I almost had to open a can of e-whoopass.

[abZ]

Symbl get the fuck back to work, I need more brostep for this LP I am putting together

[symbl]

Symbl get the fuck back to work, I need more brostep for this LP I am putting together

MEET ME OUTSIDE

[dutty_switch]

Hahahaha

I just thought about what this would all look like if this was all happening live in a big room like a massive therapy session. I reckon it'd make good reality TV.

"Day 21 in the BIg Bro(step) House....."

[pkay]

big in the Bro-step game.

[symbl]

[symbl]

[86.]

who thinks this thread will get to 25 pages?

[whitelight]

One more thing.

When you start getting haters, you know you're doing something right. Doing something that is causing a ruckus and/or controversy. Something new that people don't quite understand, yet when they experience it they get it.

What you're saying doesn't make any sense, "bro".

Happy Hardcore is getting lots of hate from other electronic music fans and producers, doesn't make it good.
Tiesto is hated by lots and lots of people who know what electronic music really is. Doesn't mean he's making something new that people don't quite understand.

I don't see how having the same gritty midrange sound over every bass line in every of your song makes it something new and controversial specially since there's thousand other dubstep producers having the same sound. I'd say it's boring much more than anything else. If you wanna make something noisy, at least make it sound original. There's nothing "controversial" about sounding shitty and generic.

I think that perhaps you should do a lil more research before pointing your comment my way. And what I said does make sense from a certain point of view. Mine mostly. I've experienced it in DnB, and now I'm seeing it happen again in Dubstep. The gritty midrange style works for some, doesn't work for others. Its a personal preference issue. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, some tend to take it to the level of insult, some don't. What I'm seeing in this 'hate' thread is alot of insulting. Calling names, being blatantly rude, things of that nature. It happens in all of music, all the time. Everyone's a critic. 'This producer is shit cos they're too noisy, this band is shit cos they're too mellow, this group is shit cos they whine too much'. So on 'n so forth. My point is this. Voice your oppinion in a way that doesn't directly insult the artist. Name calling and insults are childish. You did call me out on one thing that I should have expanded on. I should have said 'making something new that people don't quite understand, or just plain don't like.' I can't fault anyone for their personal preference, but I can fault people for lacking the tact to make their opinions known in a manner that doesn't insult the artists with harsh childish words. For anyone to sit there 'n imply that all of us who make the heavier style of music lack musical skill is just ignorant and blatantly generalized. I think that the major problem is that people KNOW what music is. Bullshit. You believe that your idea of music is good. You have personal preference. You have confidence in your choice and/or selection. You do not KNOW what good music is. You do not KNOW what shit music is. Good music to you might be shit to someone else, and vice versa. Get over your KNOWLEDGE and just be open minded. Accept it for what it is, and give these people who put a hell of alot of work into their music some fucking credit! I have experienced first hand what my music does to a crowd of people. Doesn't always work, but I get some pretty damn good results. Don't shit in my cheerios, and I won't return the favor.

What makes good music (or visual art, cinema, dance, theatre, and anything else crative), is based uppon three major elements. Technique (skills), creatvity (originality, innovation), and communication (emotion, energy, message). Those elements are kind of inter-dependent.

I don't hate on producers who makes agressive, generic filthy dubstep. Talking about it like it's innovative, though, is a bit out of place and makes me frustrated.

The thing is that it's not the "agressive" or "filthy" feeling that makes it boring. What makes those artists boring is the lack of innovation, wich has an impact, in the end, on both their technique and the soul of their music. When a producer only makes tracks that sounds like what the majority of the other producers of a genre are doing, he is putting limits on his own evolution, resulting in a stagnation of his technical skills and making his products sounds like they could have been made by anyone else. This is mainly what's happening with that "brostep or whatever you wanna call it" thing.

I don't have anything against noisy stuff. I've been a huge fan of industrial, noise, breakcore and that kind of music. There's also lots of nice noisy stuff in the dubstep genre. But doing the same thing over and over without innovating and pushin things further isn't leading anywhere.

[spencertron]

[pkay]

longcatstep big in '09

[symbl]

One more thing.

When you start getting haters, you know you're doing something right. Doing something that is causing a ruckus and/or controversy. Something new that people don't quite understand, yet when they experience it they get it.

What you're saying doesn't make any sense, "bro".

Happy Hardcore is getting lots of hate from other electronic music fans and producers, doesn't make it good.
Tiesto is hated by lots and lots of people who know what electronic music really is. Doesn't mean he's making something new that people don't quite understand.

I don't see how having the same gritty midrange sound over every bass line in every of your song makes it something new and controversial specially since there's thousand other dubstep producers having the same sound. I'd say it's boring much more than anything else. If you wanna make something noisy, at least make it sound original. There's nothing "controversial" about sounding shitty and generic.

I think that perhaps you should do a lil more research before pointing your comment my way. And what I said does make sense from a certain point of view. Mine mostly. I've experienced it in DnB, and now I'm seeing it happen again in Dubstep. The gritty midrange style works for some, doesn't work for others. Its a personal preference issue. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, some tend to take it to the level of insult, some don't. What I'm seeing in this 'hate' thread is alot of insulting. Calling names, being blatantly rude, things of that nature. It happens in all of music, all the time. Everyone's a critic. 'This producer is shit cos they're too noisy, this band is shit cos they're too mellow, this group is shit cos they whine too much'. So on 'n so forth. My point is this. Voice your oppinion in a way that doesn't directly insult the artist. Name calling and insults are childish. You did call me out on one thing that I should have expanded on. I should have said 'making something new that people don't quite understand, or just plain don't like.' I can't fault anyone for their personal preference, but I can fault people for lacking the tact to make their opinions known in a manner that doesn't insult the artists with harsh childish words. For anyone to sit there 'n imply that all of us who make the heavier style of music lack musical skill is just ignorant and blatantly generalized. I think that the major problem is that people KNOW what music is. Bullshit. You believe that your idea of music is good. You have personal preference. You have confidence in your choice and/or selection. You do not KNOW what good music is. You do not KNOW what shit music is. Good music to you might be shit to someone else, and vice versa. Get over your KNOWLEDGE and just be open minded. Accept it for what it is, and give these people who put a hell of alot of work into their music some fucking credit! I have experienced first hand what my music does to a crowd of people. Doesn't always work, but I get some pretty damn good results. Don't shit in my cheerios, and I won't return the favor.

What makes good music (or visual art, cinema, dance, theatre, and anything else crative), is based uppon three major elements. Technique (skills), creatvity (originality, innovation), and communication (emotion, energy, message). Those elements are kind of inter-dependent.

I don't hate on producers who makes agressive, generic filthy dubstep. Talking about it like it's innovative, though, is a bit out of place and makes me frustrated.

The thing is that it's not the "agressive" or "filthy" feeling that makes it boring. What makes those artists boring is the lack of innovation, wich has an impact, in the end, on both their technique and the soul of their music. When a producer only makes tracks that sounds like what the majority of the other producers of a genre are doing, he is putting limits on his own evolution, resulting in a stagnation of his technical skills and making his products sounds like they could have been made by anyone else. This is mainly what's happening with that "brostep or whatever you wanna call it" thing.

I don't have anything against noisy stuff. I've been a huge fan of industrial, noise, breakcore and that kind of music. There's also lots of nice noisy stuff in the dubstep genre. But doing the same thing over and over without innovating and pushin things further isn't leading anywhere.

You don't have to explain what makes music good to me. I'm well aware of it. My idea of good music differs from yours as well as many many others. All I'm saying is who are you to shit in an artist's cheerios by telling them they're crap without first having some creations of your own in order to back your argument? Maybe not you, but others that do a similar thing. I do not see a link to your music anywhere, so I am assuming that you do not write. Critics. All they are good at is persuading others to buy into their bullshit. Unless they are either doing a similar thing, and/or have done it in the past. I do not believe one can be an expert in an area unless they have gotten their hands dirty in that respective area at some point. And even then I wouldn't call them experts. An expert in music is someone who has touched billions of people with their own music at some point in their lives. I'm no expert nor do I think I ever will be. John Lennon is an expert. Bach is an expert. Beethoven is an expert. Self-righteous individuals who claim to be experts are anything but. Talk is cheap. Show me. Everyone talks, everyone communicates, everyone bullshits. I want to see action. Actions speak louder than words. I'm walking the walk while talking, so take that how you will. I do agree with the points you made about innovation, and self evolution to an extent. Truth of that matter is that this sound has already been done before. Its not really all that new and innovative. Its a mixture of genres of the past. You want innovation in music, look to the producers that create their own sounds, not twist up a sound that has already been created. That is evolution in music imho. Electronic music at least.

I feel like this sometimes



I did with DnB, and I do here as well. Honestly I hear alot of things in dubstep that have been done in dnb 'n breakcore for years. Filtering, Wobble, Big beats, odd beats, grimey bass, sub bass, lets not forget glitching, so on 'n so forth.

It may not be something totally new and innovative, but I have alot of fun with it. That is what counts. The fun factor. If it ain't fun 'n don't make people move, then it really isn't worth it.

[Brandon S.]

ATTENTION BROMOTERS!

If you you are interested in booking any of our "Brostep" artists, please contact me at the contact below.

[kozee]

Ok cos it was just a joke


<3

Naw yer cool. I'm just tired of people forcing stuff on other people like they have some sort of control over them. We are all music lovers, we all enjoy this sound, and we all have our preferences. My uppitiness is directed toward those who appear to be elitists that KNOW everything. Including what is good for another human being.

so why wont this thread die then?


pleaseeeeeeeeeeee

[kozee]

ATTENTION BROMOTERS!

If you you are interested in booking any of our "Brostep" artists, please contact me at the contact below.

lol

[steppo]

[zardonic]

Yeah but seriously bro I think we should call it unclestep.

TBH.

[iron myke]

http://www.brostep.com/

[symbl]

Ok cos it was just a joke


<3

Naw yer cool. I'm just tired of people forcing stuff on other people like they have some sort of control over them. We are all music lovers, we all enjoy this sound, and we all have our preferences. My uppitiness is directed toward those who appear to be elitists that KNOW everything. Including what is good for another human being.

so why wont this thread die then?


pleaseeeeeeeeeeee

because sometimes I enjoy fukkin with ppl. :F