think carefully about flu shots this winter.

[dgg]

http://www.dystonia-foundation.org/page ... ne/569.php

[alien pimp]

in sweden there's 7 deaths suspected to be related with the vaccine and getting investigated now

[deeps]

"Just say NO"

[alien pimp]

and thank seckle for the thread

[gwa]

So why has no one at Baxter (the guys who made swine flu, and made the vaccine) administerd the vaccine in public... even with a 6 digit cash reward for doing so..

[alien pimp]

So why has no one at Baxter (the guys who made swine flu, and made the vaccine) administerd the vaccine in public... even with a 6 digit cash reward for doing so..

i know and i'm on your side dude, you're just not paying attention to what i said and took me wrong
i'm no kid

[gwa]

Would it surprise you I'm only 19. My statement about Baxter was rhetorical, I don't think age is an issue though

[alien pimp]

Would it surprise you I'm only 19. My statement about Baxter was rhetorical, I don't think age is an issue though

yeh, but you're cool :]
age is not the issue 100% but definitely it's an age for growing chest hair and an age for losing hair, and experience and glands are influencing our attitude differently in each case.

[karmacazee]

why people even take jabs is beyond me, for any disease

tb, rubella, cholera, polio, meningitis, tetanis

the chances of getting those in our society is so small

TB and Polio are virtually non-existent now precisely because of innocculations.

I'm not saying that there isn't a money swindling medical scam going on don't get me wrong, I don't trust drug companies as far as I can throw them, but some medical advances are to our benefit.

[alien pimp]

why people even take jabs is beyond me, for any disease

tb, rubella, cholera, polio, meningitis, tetanis

the chances of getting those in our society is so small

TB and Polio are virtually non-existent now precisely because of innocculations.

I'm not saying that there isn't a money swindling medical scam going on don't get me wrong, I don't trust drug companies as far as I can throw them, but some medical advances are to our benefit.

nobody was dissing the idea of vaccination, just the way it was used for the last decades

[karmacazee]

Man that is so fucked up.

The capitalist class have a lot to answer for.

A truly free market would involve the right to organize and the people would regulate industry, not the other way around.

That's what the junta's of South America, the corrupted governments of Indonesia, South Africa and post cold war Russia thought too.

Didn't quite work out that way though.

[karmacazee]

why people even take jabs is beyond me, for any disease

tb, rubella, cholera, polio, meningitis, tetanis

the chances of getting those in our society is so small

TB and Polio are virtually non-existent now precisely because of innocculations.

I'm not saying that there isn't a money swindling medical scam going on don't get me wrong, I don't trust drug companies as far as I can throw them, but some medical advances are to our benefit.

nobody was dissing the idea of vaccination, just the way it was used for the last decades

Well, I was referring to his initial sentence why people even take jabs is beyond me, for any disease...tb, rubella, cholera, polio, meningitis, tetanis

If you didn't take 'em they would come back, as they haven't been completely eradicated.

In what way do you mean the way it was used for the last decades? The whole creating a panic through the media about an epidemic and then pushing the cure thing? If you've got any good links regarding that then send 'em my way, I'm not too clued up on it.

[NilsFG]

I agree with the following posts:

A vaccine is a tiny dose of an infection so your body builds an immunity to it. Hence protecting you from possible contraction.

It will make you feel ill for a day. And there's a minute chance you'll have majorly fucked side effects. But there's also a minute chance that when you next walk out of your front door, you'll get hit by an asteroid.

My immune system is pretty weak and i tend to have colds all year round. I had flu last year and it was horrible tbh. I feel sorry for the poor lass but, the risk of death from any kind of vaccination is incredably small, almost insignificant. These story although in this case true and very unfortunate, just propagate the mistrust surounding main stream medicine and health care. It's scare mongering and sensationalism.

Ok. There might be a small chance that there's something fishy about those swine flu vaccinations (short-time development), but people shouldn't draw that line further to all vaccinations.
Most of the vaccinations got prepared in longer amounts of time, so there was enough time for decent research.

I have all the regular vaccinations (except the regular flu shot), I use medicines developed by major pharmaceuticals and I'm perfectly healthy (except maybe those damned fluoride ions protecting my teeth and "brainwashing" me). Just like everybody else I know.

[hackman]

why people even take jabs is beyond me, for any disease

tb, rubella, cholera, polio, meningitis, tetanis

the chances of getting those in our society is so small

TB and Polio are virtually non-existent now precisely because of innocculations.

I'm not saying that there isn't a money swindling medical scam going on don't get me wrong, I don't trust drug companies as far as I can throw them, but some medical advances are to our benefit.

bollocks, a myth perpetuated by the drugs companies, have a dig around, youll be surprised
and if they are virtually non existent (which id put down to better sanitation and quality of life) whats the need to continue with them


and i am dissing the idea of vaccination, its a joke

[gwa]

im unsure the intentions of swine flu. to merk off a lot of americans or to make money. most likely the latter, but i do know americas honchos want to de populizeeee

[hackman]

gwa because of that national emergency thing i reckon the main point of swine flu was to be the excuse to lead america into martial law
as well as to make lots and lots and lots of money

[collige]

Wasn't there something about this with a doctor saying it could all be in her head (as in no physical basis for it)?

[gwa]

gwa because of that national emergency thing i reckon the main point of swine flu was to be the excuse to lead america into martial law
as well as to make lots and lots and lots of money

yeah like I said in the pm, one step from martial law now. but there's plenty of info on them wanting to cut down the size of population.

Martial law and the Lisbon treaty.

Alien pimp, people are easily influenced through there teens, but try influence them on matters like this. Hell all my mates think I'm paranoid and saddistic on matters like this.
Glad you think I'm cool for being aware, many do not.

[mawltea]

I'm going to get the shot tomorrow. We're *almost* required to in my job (working with disabled kids who are in the socalled high risk zone). I can choose not to, but will do it if it means protecting the weaker kids.

[gwa]

Please don't. For the love of god, don't.