What dubsteo albums will be up for mercury nomination this y

el sub sta · Post by **el sub sta** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:49 pm

year.

Im hoping Kode 9

ewah · Post by **ewah** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:01 pm

I'd be really surprised if there was no dubstep on the list come the summer. Funny this post should go up cos I've just been marinating on whether to put an early bet on Skream and or/Kode 9 being nominated... thing is, the judges really do try and critique all the records based on quality not hype - the phrase 'does it work as an album?' is applied pretty much throughout, plus some of 'em won't have had the pleasure of hearing it in context (had the inside of their cheekbones rattled) and might find it hard to make the sonic leap.

If the label submits it, I reckon both have got a good chance. A Skream nomination would make for some interesting TV. Crack 'em, anyone?

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:09 pm

Ewah wrote:I'd be really surprised if there was no dubstep on the list come the summer. Funny this post should go up cos I've just been marinating on whether to put an early bet on Skream and or/Kode 9 being nominated... thing is, the judges really do try and critique all the records based on quality not hype - the phrase 'does it work as an album?' is applied pretty much throughout, plus some of 'em won't have had the pleasure of hearing it in context (had the inside of their cheekbones rattled) and might find it hard to make the sonic leap.

If the label submits it, I reckon both have got a good chance. A Skream nomination would make for some interesting TV. Crack 'em, anyone?

sorry to come down on a negative cynical tip but i would happily bet against any dubstep getting anywhere near a nomination.

this does however depend on who is selecting this year but i'm still very very doubtful.

ewah · Post by **ewah** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:19 pm

It doesn't just depend on who's on the panel - there's a kind of Mercury mentality that applies whoever's judging. They definitely work on rock-style ideas of what a good album is, but definitely keep an open mind and ear to innovation. And dubstep's got that in spades, right?

Bit mad to be having a Mercury conversation in December. The list doesn't come out til the summer!

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:22 pm

isn't the mma just pure hype in itself?

it blows up [alerts the broadsheets] to someone who was doing quite nicely for themselves, then whatever happens happens and three years later everyone says "their first album was wicked, look at em now".

ewah · Post by **ewah** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:32 pm

Sort of yes, but the idea is to promote good, interesting British music and that's gotta be alright. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. People love to hate the mercury but at least it's basically about the right things - good music.

Anyway, every day that passes makes broadsheets and magazines less relevant so it doesn't matter what they're hyping or finishing off. They've never really affected sales (record shops are much more influential, at least the ones still around) and most of it is just filling space. None of it really means anything. So, errrr, who's happy that Wonder's playing Cockney Violins on Rinse right now?

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:37 pm

Ewah wrote:Sort of yes, but the idea is to promote good, interesting British music and that's gotta be alright. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. People love to hate the mercury but at least it's basically about the right things - good music.

nah totally mate, was mainly just thinking about the careers of many past winners. prob came accross as unnecesarily negative.

ewah · Post by **ewah** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:41 pm

didn't seem negative - know what you mean! not for nothing that it's got those albatross associations. but mostly, like nina simone said, the intentions are good.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:43 pm

Ewah wrote:It doesn't just depend on who's on the panel - there's a kind of Mercury mentality that applies whoever's judging. They definitely work on rock-style ideas of what a good album is, but definitely keep an open mind and ear to innovation. And dubstep's got that in spades, right?

Bit mad to be having a Mercury conversation in December. The list doesn't come out til the summer!

i'm not sure this gives me any more confidence. dizzee seemed to be a total blip and dubstep isn't even on the mainstream radar as much as dizzee was back then. i don't know. the awards are certainly rockist in their overall raison d'etre and the surprises always seem to be token nods rather than things that could really win.

i'd be surprised if a dubstep record were nominated. we'll see. like you say it's time away.

dappa d · Post by **dappa d** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:24 pm

boomnoise wrote: the awards are certainly rockist in their overall raison d'etre

Roni Size(, DJ die and them )won the mercury prize for "New Forms" album.
Admittedly, DnB was definatly not a new phenomenon at that point, and Goldie's Timeless was already a little dated.

I think its too early for dubstep.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:44 pm

burial sold a boat load of units this year. it shoudl be obvious.

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:46 pm

the label has to submit the album for it to be eligable, and i doubt many dubsteppers do.

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:54 pm

Burial should be there, do it Hyperdub!

boomting · Post by **boomting** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:39 pm

narcossist wrote:"their first album was wicked, look at em now".

i agree, winning the mma is the nail in anyones coffin

el sub sta · Post by **el sub sta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:15 pm

I think it is possible.

el sub sta · Post by **el sub sta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:26 pm

boomting wrote:
narcossist wrote:"their first album was wicked, look at em now".
i agree, winning the mma is the nail in anyones coffin

What dubsteo albums will be up for mercury nomination this y

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