Learning to DJ - Dubstep edition

[andythetwig]

Your two records wll be in phase and in theory if you got them perfectly in time they would cancel eachother out (to a point - vinyl cutting is an imperfect process). Basically the ounds you are listening to will suddenly dissapera or turn very 'hollow'.

suddenly disappear? only if the waves were inverted surely!

like you say, you just get a phaser effect if you mix identical sources, no cancelling!

[triac]

Peachy, peachy. There's ALWAYS room for decks.

Someone told me to mix two copies of the same record, which kind of makes sense, but I found it was harder to tell which record is out of time because they both have the same beats.

Don't ever do this. Your two records wll be in phase and in theory if you got them perfectly in time they would cancel eachother out (to a point - vinyl cutting is an imperfect process). Basically the ounds you are listening to will suddenly dissapera or turn very 'hollow'.

What andy said. If you get two copies of the same tune exactly in phase, in theory it will just sound louder....

[mr peach]

bought some vinyl!

gonna try and learn on a friends decks, turns out my flat mate has some under his bed!

vinyl:

skream - midnight request line
skream - acid people
dj pinch and p dutty - war dub
dj distance - nomad
dub child - take me
dub child voodoo

hope some of these will mix.

[point-blanc]

Youre right. Youre both right.

Full phase cancellation requires equal and opposite phase. Being a muppet i'm afraid. Shouldnt post just after i wake up on a sunday .

But the point is still valid. I think what you'll get is a comb filter effect which is the sum of the two signals. They certainly won't cancel eachother but you will get a phasing effect that that'll mean you get artefacts that you shouldn't and... look its a bad idea ok.

I'm gonna go now.

[argyle747]

Dubstep is quite hard to 'mix' in the traditional way, especially if you've never mixed before. I think the main problem is the fact that alot of the tunes are 'syncopated' (they have that garage-type swing beat), which makes it a bit more difficult to mix generally and produces those off-key snares if mixed with non-syncopated track (like a search & destroy track for example)

With a bit of practice though, you'll soon understand what goes and what doesn't and thats when the fun begins !

Good luck matey !

Agreed. If you are starting on decks you want to start with some hip hop, techno, or house- something with an even sycopation. dubstep would prob be a bit too advanced for a nube...
good luck ese.

[Rob H]

Having said that, mixing dubstep is AWESOME.

Mate i completely agree

[milo]

defo